Yeah someone made an apt comparison earlier in the thread between the Rwandan genocide and the Holocaust. It would be silly to suggest that since one group referred to the other as a race they wished to exterminate, that we should all go along with that convention of what race is.
Wrong. Race itself is a social construct. The Holocaust wasn’t just about exterminating Jews, it was about exterminating all “non-aryan races”. You can do both. You can deny the Nazis belief in an aryan race, and still say the Holocaust was racially motivated - because it fukking was, even if their concept of race was skewed. The same way you can say scientific racism is racist even though their conceptions of race are fukking dumb.
Humans evolved out of Africa, every human being is from Africa and by default, African. So are you going to say slavery wasn’t racially motivated because the white slave owners were African, and therefore couldn’t be racist against their own race? fukking no, because that argument would be retarded.
The real question is, what the fukk are you all arguing for? Like why is this the hill y’all are jumping to die on. Not only is it stupid and wrong from a scientific/historical perspective, It’s downplaying the severity of the Holocaust and trying to make it seem like just another war, when in reality there were centuries of racist and anti-Semitic rhetoric behind it.
The first ghettoes were made specifically for Jews. They were the first race (or whatever the fukk you want to call it) to be segregated. All the shyt white supremacists in America did under Jim Crow was directly influenced by European treatment of Jews. So even if you don’t think Jews aren’t a “race” (which goes against the tons of scientific evidence showing their genetic identify) who gives a fukk? If splitting hairs between race, ethnicity, whatever is the conversation that the Holocaust makes you bring up, and not the discussion of fascist white supremacy which continues to fukk over this planet, you’re fukking lost.