Whose economic views and vision do you most agree with?

[babylon1]

why arent they marxism, do tell

marx didn't favor totalitarian rule by a tiny bourgeoisie minority

 

[The Real]

I'm assuming Odyssey is Gundam?

Nah I think he's that weirdo who keeps posting these flop threads about how the classic canon of male-dominated literature isn't respected anymore and is leading to an emasculated, liberal dystopia. It's a bizarre niche. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Nah I think he's that weirdo who keeps posting these flop threads about how the classic canon of male-dominated literature isn't respected anymore and is leading to an emasculated, liberal dystopia. It's a bizarre niche. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

He does a little bit of the 'disenfranchised straight white male' ressentiment schtick too. fukking weird character to play on a hip hop and sports site

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Nah I think he's that weirdo who keeps posting these flop threads about how the classic canon of male-dominated literature isn't respected anymore and is leading to an emasculated, liberal dystopia. It's a bizarre niche. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

He's the alias of some guy named scustin trillberlake who's always posting about being oppressed by feminists in the most embarrassing, pathetic thread on this site, the upped "quick gems on dealing with women" thread in TLR. I don't know why he made the Odyssey alias.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

@MyGawdThePower

 

[theworldismine13]

marx didn't favor totalitarian rule by a tiny bourgeoisie minority

that wasnt totalitarianism that was the dictatorship of the proletariat

 

[babylon1]

that wasnt totalitarianism that was the dictatorship of the proletariat

you dumbfukk. you don't even know the definition of proletariat

 

[theworldismine13]

you dumbfukk. you don't even know the definition of proletariat

all the leaders of those nations considered themselves one with the proletariat

 

[unit321]

I voted for Selma Hayak.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The interesting thing about Marxist economic theory to me is this: I use it and believe in its theories more than I do any other theory, but I don't believe that it's goals can be accomplished in the State Socialist sense that Marx desired, but instead in a more anarchist sense. The history of states attempting to create the territory for (any type of) communism in the context of a state tends to either turn out like the descendents of the Third International (bureaucratic State Capitalism, as seen in Russia and China, which never quite decoupled from capitalist formulations of society and value, much less the international political economy itself) or usually take more anarchistic forms (Anarchist Catalonia, Ukranian Free Territory, Chiapas). Through more mutualist, syndicalist, and/or collectivist means, you could actually say that the more anarchist leaning communities actually have better results at achieving the goals behind Marxian economic and sociological analysis. How do you combat the tyranny of capitalist value formation and commodity fetishism if you're still part and parcel in a commodity economy, as the statists were? How can you combat alienation when Leninist bureaucracy has much of the same relation to a worker that a random boss in Capitalist society has to its worker?

To clearly answer the question (I haven't voted; not sure if I will like @The Real), I'm more Marxist than anything, because I'm against the currency system and think that orthodox economics is largely junk science, based on the actual history of Capitalism. But I tend to filter it through more Anarchist modes of thought. Kropotkin, Dejacque, new Anarchists such as David Graeber, organizations such as Abahlali baseMjondolo even alternative modes of economics such as Potlach. For me, it's more about achieving the goals of Marxian economic analysis than being completely enslaved to its methods. And for that, you need to look everywhere, not just in economic theories (and I'm basically a theorist by trade at this point).

Interesting. I'll delve more deeply into this thread late tonight.

Did you give up on the podcast bruh? We could use you.

 

[TrueEpic08]

Interesting. I'll delve more deeply into this thread late tonight.

Did you give up on the podcast bruh? We could use you.

Research and teaching takes up a lot of my time right now. I just got back to keeping up with world news in a substantive way. And then I got back into working out...I just don't have a lot of time or effort to prepare for it.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Research and teaching takes up a lot of my time right now. I just got back to keeping up with world news in a substantive way. And then I got back into working out...I just don't have a lot of time or effort to prepare for it.

That's what's up. What do you teach, high school?

 

[TrueEpic08]

That's what's up. What do you teach, high school?

Graduate Teaching Assistant at my university.

 

[babylon1]

all the leaders of those nations considered themselves one with the proletariat

and the chinese claim to be socialists. are you really this ignorant? did you take any courses in sociology? political science? or did you go to capitalist brainwash camp and study oppression aka business

 

[theworldismine13]

and the chinese claim to be socialists. are you really this ignorant? did you take any courses in sociology? political science? or did you go to capitalist brainwash camp and study oppression aka business

like i said i rely on wikipedia, and apparently they believe maosim falls under marxism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism#Maoism and the chinese claimed to be communist back in the day and now they are capitalist when they realized what a failure, non marxism/socialism/communism or whatever the fuk you want to call it was


and so you are saying that cuba and venezuela are controlled by a tiny bourgeoisie minority so therefore they arent marxist?