Whose family tree/pedigree is 50 from? RUNDMC or NWA?

[MJ Truth]

Wouldn't be rapping without JMH

Wouldn't have blown up without Dre

It shouldn't have to solely be 1.

Maybe not to that same level, but 50 was going to blow regardless. Aftermath didnt make 50, he was already on that trajectory.

 

[get these nets]

Auto spell had me out here looking foolish. Nobody screamed on me for the typo in the title????

Corrected.

 

[Danktoker94]

you know damn well most people heard of 50 after he was shady/aftermath.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Wouldn't be rapping without JMH
Wouldn't have blown up without Dre
It shouldn't have to solely be 1.

bolded is false.

 

[get these nets]

bolded is false.

REST IN PEACE to the real Runny Ray

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Yeah and you're in the minority. Like he went to Dre and was like just gimme the beats, I already know everything.

naw.

you just werent outside.

people who were into hip-hop, knew about 50 cent. he was one of the more controversial names for years before he got with interscope.

REST IN PEACE to the real Runny Ray

 

[Chris Cool]

naw.

you just werent outside.

people who were into hip-hop, knew about 50 cent. he was one of the more controversial names for years before he got with interscope.

Nobody in California cared about 50 Cent until 02.

 

[get these nets]

With all due respect to the buzz that 50 created for himself after the industry threw him aside, anybody saying that he would have blown up to that level without Dre association is not keeping it 100.

Dudes from that era, and from tri state area can name and list NY rappers who blew up on the mixtape circuit and who built up a buzz who never blew up. Papoose is a good example.

There's a line from BIG's song "Going Back to Cali" where he describes the difference between regional buzz and actually blowing up nationally

What's your plan, is it to rock the Tri-State?
Almost gold, five Gs a show date
Or do you wanna see about seven digits?
fukk hoes exquisite, Cali, great place to visit

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Nobody in California cared about 50 Cent until 02.

you said nobody knew about him.

now youre trying to move the goal-posts.

With all due respect to the buzz that 50 created for himself after the industry threw him aside, anybody saying that he would have blown up to that level without Dre association is not keeping it 100.

Dudes from that era, and from tri state area can name and list NY rappers who blew up on the mixtape circuit and who built up a buzz who never blew up. Papoose is a good example.

you seriously comparing 50 cent to papoose???

50 cent wasnt even regional when he got signed. his music was big all the way down south without a deal.

you do know that there was a huge bidding war over 50, right??

 

[Chris Cool]

you said nobody knew about him.

now youre trying to move the goal-posts.

*Knew

 

[get these nets]

you seriously comparing 50 cent to papoose???

50 cent wasnt even regional when he got signed. his music was big all the way down south without a deal.

you do know that there was a huge bidding war over 50, right??

Here is my post from at least a year ago
https://www.thecoli.com/posts/34177786/

irv is revising history

50 cent was finished after he got shot....99.9% of other artists would have given up, turned to the streets and ended up a statistic. After the murders of big an pac, labels and corporations were scared away from violence spilling into real life.

for all intents and purposes 50 was over

Sheer hustle is what got 50 hot on the mixtape circuit. Him being picked up by the Interscope machine just as they were promoting 8 Mile (and being included on that soundtrack) was a stroke of luck.

I'm convinced that if he comes out with exact same songs from GROTD on a different label..without the Interscope muscle.....that he maybe goes gold and is forgotten the next year

read that thread to see my points when people called me on it (including bringing up "bidding wars" like you just did)

 

[Starburst]

Here is my post from at least a year ago
https://www.thecoli.com/posts/34177786/



read that thread to see my points when people called me on it (including bringing up "bidding wars" like you just did)

If I remember correctly, and please correct me if I’m wrong, Interscope were not sure about him. The only reason he got put on was because Eminem took full responsibility and put him in on through Shady. 50 has said him himself that he owes his career to Eminem.

 

[get these nets]

If I remember correctly, and please correct me if I’m wrong, Interscope were not sure about him. The only reason he got put on was because Eminem took full responsibility and put him in on through Shady.

Eminem was on a commercial winning streak at the time, so I'm sure he had a lot of leverage at Interscope at the time.
What I was getting at was that being attached to Dre and Eminem and plugged into the Interscope machine + delivering quality music is what caused 50 to blow up the way he did.

Dre and Em are featured prominently in the promo for the GRODT run, incldng the front cover of XXL and being the first faces shown in the 'In the Club" video.


Later when 50 became a mega star, Dre took an artist off the backburner and attached him to 50's winning streak.........aka The Game, and Game benefitted commercially from the 50/G-unit association and for putting out quality music.

 

[Starburst]

Eminem was on a commercial winning streak at the time, so I'm sure he had a lot of leverage at Interscope at the time.
What I was getting at was that being attached to Dre and Eminem and plugged into the Interscope machine + delivering quality music is what caused 50 to blow up the way he did.

Dre and Em are featured prominently in the promo for the GRODT run, incldng the front cover of XXL and being the first faces shown in the 'In the Club" video.


Later when 50 became a mega star, Dre took an artist off the backburner and attached him to 50's winning streak.........aka The Game, and Game benefitted commercially from the 50/G-unit association and for putting out quality music.

Oh most definitely. 50 worked hard when he got his opportunity as he should, but anyone doubting the mega duo and influence during that time of Dre/Eminem is not being truthful. I’m not sure if 50 would have got to his current level had he been on DefJam or Columbia

 

[Sinister]

Eminem was on a commercial winning streak at the time, so I'm sure he had a lot of leverage at Interscope at the time.
What I was getting at was that being attached to Dre and Eminem and plugged into the Interscope machine + delivering quality music is what caused 50 to blow up the way he did.

Dre and Em are featured prominently in the promo for the GRODT run, incldng the front cover of XXL and being the first faces shown in the 'In the Club" video.


Later when 50 became a mega star, Dre took an artist off the backburner and attached him to 50's winning streak.........aka The Game, and Game benefitted commercially from the 50/G-unit association and for putting out quality music.

Could have sworn Em literally said he had to ask Dre permission to have 50