Why a post Infinity Saga MCU has been meh at best

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1. the end of the two most iconic characters (Tony Stark, Steve Rogers), with no proper passing of the torch.
2. COVID-19 ruining the release dates
3. Making a Black Widow movie, after the character is already dead... and after the Infinity Saga is over.
4. Chadwick Boseman's death
5. Over relying on Spider-Man who got 3 movies and 3 cameo's even though the character was introduced well after others.
6. The multiverse being shoehorned into everything at this point. This literally ruined the original plot for Dr Strange 2. They forced the director to change the plot without giving him a new deadline, forcing him to walk away. It also changed the plot for Spider Man 3. Both movies ended up being laughably overrated.
7. No clear overall direction, other than the "multiverse" which seems like a way to shoehorn characters who otherwise shouldn't already been in the MCU timeline day one (X-Men, Blade etc.)
8. Sony trying to ride the coattails of the MCU, shoehorning elements into their weak ass movies.
9. No quality rival studio to push Marvel be more competitive.
10. Disney. Disney helped take the MCU to another level, but the overall quality hasn't been what it needed to be. It seems that they will forever be held back.
11. Horrible CGI due to certain movies being priorities over others, movies being filmed at certain locations to cut costs and overlapping productions giving key elements little to no time to be properly created and edited in post production.

Marvel's ambition, while uncharted, may end up hindering them in the future. People point to the Eternals, and Marvel's first being flop, but it was merely a hiccup. THey could afford to make a niche movie, with little to no positive reviews and barely breaking even or losing money. If it was Spider-Man then I could understand. But not this.

Black Panther is probably under the most pressure to equal or surpass what it did before as COVID-19 is no longer an excuse based on what Spider-Man did.


At this point, it's really hard to gauge where the MCU will head going forward. There is a new generation of consumers, that didn't come up on the originals, and it's impossible to duplicate phase 1-3. shyt will either get even more redundant, which will force them to take bigger risks and cut out movies, or the will ride the wave until the wheels fall out.
 

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Endgame was mid. The shows have been better than the movies
It's getting to campus.

The Russo's and the Dr strange guy make the best films but Russos fumbled endgame.
End Game served it's purpose. It was supposed to be a recap of the journey, and end storylines.

But Thor being the only OG character to come out unscathed is disheartening. He can't carry the franchise. Ragonok on face value, was only praised because of the departure from the themes that made the sequel weak as fukk.

The Dr. Strange director should've been able to have his vision realized in the sequel, with Nightmare as the villain, but they wanted the multiverse and the movie to tie into Loki, which made no sense. Then you have the multiverse in Spiderman, which created more questions than answers and a bunch of plotholes.
 
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They should have been introduced X-Men by now. i'm not sure they will capture all of the elements from the comics that show why X-Men are great esp. from a political standpoint but they can probably do well enough to ride X-Men into the future...

Yes.. "X-Men is coming.."

We've heard that for a while now but they could have already had it in motion.

BW was a flop but that was a given and during a pandemic so let it slide. Eternals and Shang Chi both flopped by CBM standards. Doctor Strange 2 has done pretty well but probably would have been better served if they hadn't tried to sell it as a "game changer". i enjoyed Doctor Strange 2 for the most part though.
 

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You woke up

Drank your coffee
Ate your honeydew melon and cantaloupe (with salt sprinkled on it)
Read your local newspaper

And chose VIOLENCE :mjlol:

That Thor trailer was the straw that broke the camels back. After processing Dr. Strange and how it could've been better, they drop that bullshyt.

If they manage to fukk up Black Panther... :mjpls: they really have no excuse even with Chadwick gone.


It seems like the MCU has been overrun with fanservice. You got cameo's that are put in just for the sake of putting them in the movie. Eternals could've been a lot better and should've been a classic, but that cookie cutter obligatory mcu formula reared it's ugly head once again.


But I supposed it's hard to properly introduce new characters in an already established universe without shyt making a lot of sense. People know Marvel just got certain properties back, late in the game, so what's the point of even questioning shyt at this point.


Marvel fukking up. Feige lost a step and someone needs to call it out.
 
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Also on Endgame.. what could really be done? The time travel element was a little mehhh but the rest of the movie was good. it had to end that way..

infinity war is the MCU's crowning achievement. But at the end of the day.. you can't have Thanos win Lol so that's why Endgame exists..
 

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They should have been introduced X-Men by now. i'm not sure they will capture all of the elements from the comics that show why X-Men are great esp. from a political standpoint but they can probably do well enough to ride X-Men into the future...

Yes.. "X-Men is coming.."

We've heard that for a while now but they could have already had it in motion.

BW was a flop but that was a given and during a pandemic so let it slide. Eternals and Shang Chi both flopped by CBM standards. Doctor Strange 2 has done pretty well but probably would have been better served if they hadn't tried to sell it as a "game changer". i enjoyed Doctor Strange 2 for the most part though.

Honestly, there is no real way to properly introduce the X-Men without doing

A. a complete reboot of the MCU
B. establishing them in a different universe. can't be in the current MCU. I think they know that. It's one thing to explain where the Eternals were this whole time because it's only 10 of them. But the X-Men.. Nah. They could even shoehorn the Inhumans into the MCU if they wanted, And the Fantastic 4. But not the X-Men.
 

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I wonder about this as well..

I’m bracing myself for the fact that they will never replicate the Infinity Saga.. It just can’t be done. magical shyt like that is some Haley’s Comet shyt that comes around every 70 years..

I have faith in Feige though that’s why he going on the retreat to try and map it out but damn it’s gonna be hard..

I have excepted that I’m just gonna appreciate what I have seen and just thank God that I was alive to see it play out :mjcry:

Thank you Father.
 

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Also on Endgame.. what could really be done? The time travel element was a little mehhh but the rest of the movie was good. it had to end that way..

infinity war is the MCU's crowning achievement. But at the end of the day.. you can't have Thanos win Lol so that's why Endgame exists..
Better showcase of infinite gem powers.

Midgame
 
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After secret wars I think feige just gonna head on out. They know they can’t milk this story for too much longer. Nobody wants to wait another decade for secret wars or the xmen to form, we just saw that with fox.

My problem with the mcu going forward is how :mjpls: They been loooking.

They moved heaven and earth to get the cameos in no way home and multivitamin of madness. Signed actors on last minute and changed a lot of the script during shooting, but they they can’t recast t'challa? Pg13 blade? Be on the lookout for the marvels though in February….

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Honestly, there is no real way to properly introduce the X-Men without doing

A. a complete reboot of the MCU
B. establishing them in a different universe. can't be in the current MCU. I think they know that. It's one thing to explain where the Eternals were this whole time because it's only 10 of them. But the X-Men.. Nah. They could even shoehorn the Inhumans into the MCU if they wanted, And the Fantastic 4. But not the X-Men.
Inhumans Terrigen mists unlock latent mutant abilities in humanity while the multiverse props in the most beloved X-Men icons.

Have a movie where the villain is trying to unleash those mists and the heroes fail which creates mutantkind in 616. Since the same characters exist across multiverses they can easily bring in whoever they want as a result of the mists.

Light work.

They already set up the return for apocalypse with the crashing of the celestial ship
 
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