Why are atheists so obsessed with religion?

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

haha. wrong

Intellectually stimulating rebuttal with oodles of facts.......
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[Ghost Utmost]

We just don't understand why motherfukkers believe in shyt that can't be proven...

And we don't understand how atheists on average know more about religion than believers...and motherfukkers don't even know they own shyt...yet believe so hard...


Religion is a fascinating phenomenon...most people that become philosophers of religion are non-believers

Asking why an atheist is obsessed with religion is like asking why a socialist/communist is obsessed with capitalism or a ethnonationalist obsessed with races and racism.

U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey
Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups on a new survey of religious knowledge, outperforming evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants and Catholics on questions about the core teachings, history and leading figures of major world religions.

On average, Americans correctly answer 16 of the 32 religious knowledge questions on the survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life. Atheists and agnostics average 20.9 correct answers. Jews and Mormons do about as well, averaging 20.5 and 20.3 correct answers, respectively. Protestants as a whole average 16 correct answers; Catholics as a whole, 14.7. Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons perform better than other groups on the survey even after controlling for differing levels of education.

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Kids only believe in Santa when they haven't got enough info. Once they catch Daddy sneaking in presents they begin the process of losing faith.

Same with religion. You have to ignore the pesky facts if you wanna BELIEVE like a hardcore religious person.

Once you know that Bhudda was said to have done the exact same miracles as Jesus it starts to lose credibility. So avoid all that pagan nonsense.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You're kidding me right? Just because there were 400k "free" men doesn't mean they would rock any boats being surrounded by plantations and slave owners willing to tear up their papers and throw them right back into bondage.

Well, that's not my argument at all. So your point is moot.

I'm saying if MOST of the Black population at that time in the United States were slaves (according to census data) and they were force-fed Christianity, it would follow that MOST of the Black people in the United States at that time would be Christian instead of about 10% of them. Keep in mind that even if they were baptized, they wouldn't be manumitted, so it'd make no sense to record the data to obfuscate that fact.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

My comments were aimed at Africans PRE SLAVERY not pre civil war which happened hundreds of years later.

Oh, speaking of that.....

African Christianity in Kongo | Essay | Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History | The Metropolitan Museum of Art
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In 1491, King Nzinga converted to Christianity of his own free will, urging the Kongo nobility and peasant classes to follow suit. To varying degrees, the Kongo kingdom remained Christian for the next 200 years. Scholars continue to dispute the authenticity of Kongolese Christian faith and the degree to which the adoption of a new faith was motivated by political and economic realities. From the time of Nzinga’s conversion until the seventeenth century, Kongo leadership engaged in extensive communications with religious and political leaders from Europe, including the pope and other members of the Vatican, who accepted the Kongo Church as Orthodox.

Columbus 'discovered' America one year later.

and before you move the goalpost....
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It's Black Americans that are Christians I don't get

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Believe in the Egyptian gods? Of course not.
The point was Christianity is plagiarism

False. It's an expression of Judaism. They were one-in-the-same until about the second century CE.

The first Christians were pious Jews, not Gentiles. Can't steal from your own religion.

Bart Ehrman's thesis was proven wrong over 70 years ago, breh.​

 

[Spence]

Oh, speaking of that.....

African Christianity in Kongo | Essay | Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History | The Metropolitan Museum of Art
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Columbus 'discovered' America one year later.

and before you move the goalpost....
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You're trying to bring in all these ancillary events to justify your argument with one tribal king and control of maybe a thousand or so people. I'm pretty sure there were Russian Muslims in 200 ad but that has no bearing on the vast majority of Africans pre slavery being non Christian my guy.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You're trying to bring in all these ancillary events to justify your argument with one tribal king and control of maybe a thousand or so people. I'm pretty sure there were Russian Muslims in 200 ad but that has no bearing on the vast majority of Africans pre slavery being non Christian my guy.

There was no 'pre-slavery' in Africa, my brother......

'Slavery', in one form or another, has existed since civilization has existed.

It predates Christianity by at least 10,000 years so your argument is still invalid.

Africans/Black slaves accepted Christianity for the same reason you accepted atheism, others accepted Islam, others accepted Judaism, etc.​

 

[Everythingg]

Do you really think you have figured out the "true" religion and that those African brethren are brainwashed and ignorant? Well let me tell you they think the same of you, and I see the irony of it all, people who originated from the same continent, adopted the religion of their respective oppressor, and somehow end up feeling more informed about the "truth" than their brethern who adopted the religion of a rival oppressor.

The same exact things can be said about atheists. Atheists think they have figured out the "truth" and those who believe in the supernatural are "brainwashed and ignorant". Well let me tell you they think the same of you and I see the irony of it all that the same things you say about others, can be said about YOU.

Most atheists are atheists because thats the way the culture is being pushed. Not because they actually searched things out. And guess who is pushing the culture nowadays? Those very same "oppressors" you say brainwashed people into believing in Islam/christianity.. Yall aint out of it either

 

[rapbeats]

As an atheist. I ALWAYS found that Christians are the idiots that try to ram that slave religion down people's throat all the time. I honestly never had anybody come up to me saying you shouldn't believe in God or saw anybody protesting religion. But you see these things done 24/7 with Jesus freaks.

well once again. you do realize Christians are SUPPOSED to preach the "GOOD NEWS" of the Bible, Jesus, GOD, etc. thats their JOB.

the job of the atheist is just to not believe in any of that and thats it. at what point does the atheist take up the religion of atheism and start doing the opposite of the christian which is to preach that the good news is false? where is that in the book of atheism, where it tells its followers to try and win over the religious of any religion? To my knowledge their is no such book.

Do you not see the difference between the two? whether you like the Christian job duties or not is not the issue. I want to know if you and other atheist understand that is a job Duty of Christianity. and if you are not telling anyone about The bible, Jesus, God, etc. Then you're not doing your job as a christian. It's not a belief system that is meant to be kept to yourself. So now that you know this. Dont get upset when you see a christian talking about what he/she is supposed to be talking about.

on the other hand. christians and any other religious groups could make sense to be upset at non believers for preaching non belief since that isnt in your job description. every time we ask yall this question. yall say yall dont care. if thats true. why are you constantly trying to convince believers that what they believe in is a lie? and its not just your family and friends. we've seen on here enough threads talking to strangers about how dumb they are for believing in so called fairy tales.


When in reality they forget that fairy tales are actually based on reality. But thats another topic for a different day. The True Stories Behind Classic Fairy Tales | The Huffington Post

 

[jwonder]

well once again. you do realize Christians are SUPPOSED to preach the "GOOD NEWS" of the Bible, Jesus, GOD, etc. thats their JOB.

the job of the atheist is just to not believe in any of that and thats it. at what point does the atheist take up the religion of atheism and start doing the opposite of the christian which is to preach that the good news is false? where is that in the book of atheism, where it tells its followers to try and win over the religious of any religion? To my knowledge their is no such book.

Do you not see the difference between the two? whether you like the Christian job duties or not is not the issue. I want to know if you and other atheist understand that is a job Duty of Christianity. and if you are not telling anyone about The bible, Jesus, God, etc. Then you're not doing your job as a christian. It's not a belief system that is meant to be kept to yourself. So now that you know this. Dont get upset when you see a christian talking about what he/she is supposed to be talking about.

on the other hand. christians and any other religious groups could make sense to be upset at non believers for preaching non belief since that isnt in your job description. every time we ask yall this question. yall say yall dont care. if thats true. why are you constantly trying to convince believers that what they believe in is a lie? and its not just your family and friends. we've seen on here enough threads talking to strangers about how dumb they are for believing in so called fairy tales.


When in reality they forget that fairy tales are actually based on reality. But thats another topic for a different day. The True Stories Behind Classic Fairy Tales | The Huffington Post

Did not read all that bull shyt. I don't go trying to prove to people there is no God. So I don't need any body coming up to me with their fairy tales.

 

[wingzboy]

The same exact things can be said about atheists. Atheists think they have figured out the "truth" and those who believe in the supernatural are "brainwashed and ignorant". Well let me tell you they think the same of you and I see the irony of it all that the same things you say about others, can be said about YOU.

Most atheists are atheists because thats the way the culture is being pushed. Not because they actually searched things out. And guess who is pushing the culture nowadays? Those very same "oppressors" you say brainwashed people into believing in Islam/christianity.. Yall aint out of it either

In case you haven't noticed breh, religion still plays a huge role in American politics, when was the last time you heard of a leading atheist politician in America?

As for the atheist "agenda", I have no clue what you are talking about, as when one is an atheist, they are free to create or follow whatever moral code they want, the communists suppressed religion but had no respect for humanity and were responsible for some of the most horrific acts committed against mankind. The nordic countries on the other hand are very secular and largely atheist yet have one of the most equitable, peaceful and forward thinking societies.

There are branches of science that study the areas that various religions have "explained", and they are studied seriously at renowned universities by highly-esteemed intellectuals who have devoted much more time and commitment to this area than you or I. Religious people are ready to accept all other advancements that flow from these various branches of science, such as modern medicine, technology, etc., yet are prepared to challenge anything emanating from the same sources if it contradicts their holy book.

So no it wasn't an oppressor or some atheist "conspiracy" that made me become atheist, it was independent rational thinking that made me question a lot of the stuff told to me by my parents and the community.