"Finding a good woman" isn't the discussion.Even though im not saying they should change themselves for every single man, it's not a bad idea for women to change themselves. They change themselves for other reasons, why not for a nice guy? Because they don't want to or have to but those women shouldn't expect a man to change for them either.
You're right; a man shouldn't have to change for a woman and that has been my point. "Stop tryin' to fit the square peg into the round hole." Another example of you arguing circular--creating arguments I'm not makin' while dissagreeing with me. "I don't agree with that, but, even if I did, you're still wrong."
You're saying move on move on, but that isn't addressing the issue at hand, which is the real discussion. It doesn't matter how many moves a nice guy makes if the result will be the same in most cases because of the stigmatism attached to them.
Perpetuating the idea that it's "not their time" or "not their season" because they haven't advanced enough in life is just a way to protect women from any blame and another link in the chain of commands men must adhere to, to be "worth it". Infact it's even called victim blaming, a term women use often.
Another thing women use often, is that they need someone who can "handle" them, so by not being aggressive in your pursuit you are still on the short side of the stick.
"Nice" guys obviously aren't making the right moves if that result never changes. You're not going to make me believe all women are the same. I'm a 25 year man. I don't live in Generalizaion-ville.
"Nice" guys aren't victims of being stigmatized. Stop it. They aren't some recognizable minority out here.
What? They're smilling at women, in public, they go home and tell their friends and their friends are like: Oh, no gurl, watch out for them. You need you a thug, though??
I'm victim blaming, but, you're creating a class of victim. Again, I'm still waiting on what it's gonna help complaingin about these women rather than move on. We're gonna shame them into accepting the "nice" guy?
Season is just a period of time, not a bank account size. If it's that bad and that important, then move to a new city. Geez, you are creating too many complaints and excuses. I'm trying to talk you off the ledge and you're creating more reasons to jump.
Maybe men need to just wait around for women to be bread by other men for a while until they "come to their senses" and THEN choose the nice guy? Then what is the point of searching? NahMaybe what needs to happen is
for nice men to pull up those boot straps and give these women and men who support their irrational "behavior" that work so we can end that weird cycle that is placing nice guys in the same category as racist psychopathic killers and rapists and losers with nothing to offer unless they have money
Again, you're creating arguments by misinterpreting my words. I never said wait to be someone's third option. I've said post after post; leave those types of women alone. Not to wait it out.
Because just like "nice guys" get "looked over," so do "nice women." And don't you dare pretend it doesn't happen. It may take a while to find them. Because, they aren't in the clubs.
Here is the thing, that librarian IS the instagram model, when shes home dressing up just to take pictures, you guys need to get these women, who are average because there is millions of them everywhere, off these pedestals like they run the world.
I've addressed this.
Lets not make this about me, because it isn't.
Okay.
Smh @ you still saying thugs offer the same thing as nice men
Ya'll are worst than racist when it comes to the caricatures of "thugs" ya'll promote. Women aren't all mindless slaves and deal with a drug dealing pimp, that beats them and they mama and whatever else crawls through ya'll mind when ya'll speak on the opposite of "nice" guys. Just as "nice" guys have redeeming qualities and ya'll see 'em, I'm sure women feel these "thugs" have redeeming qualities. I all comes down to what you prefer to deal with.
thecoli laughs at women trying to change Le'Jadian (our fictional thug, in this scenario) , but, you suggest that we try to change the same type of women? I say leave them alone and stop pretending all women are the same.
You didn't understand but you understand why bringing up pornstars offers no legit perceptions on real world dating, so why would you bring it up in the first place? Dont answer that question.
I was referring to both men and women lusting over people who seem to be bad choices for mates.
Done.
You're saying you're twenty five but you don't seem to know the difference between DMX and Mario Winans. 
@ you not answering the question as it was asked though. I asked it that way to make a point. If u dont find a chick attractive, it doesn't matter how nice she is. U will go for the chick u are attracted to who isn't as nice. The ugly/undateable chick HAS to be nice to get any kind of attention from a dude. It's the same exact thing for self-identifying "nice guys". If someone says, 'hey wat do u bring to the dating table', and all you have to say is stupid shyt an adult is supposed to do on GP like 'im nice, i have a job, i go to the dentist every 6 months' u dont deserve anything beyond the basics, because you are a basic dude. Thats what "nice guys" dont seem to understand.
