Why Are Men Who Claim "Good/Nice" Hated Sohh?

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nice people exist and fake nice people exist. if you dont believe that it says more about you than the people your judging. ya'll speak with so much conviction when your generalizing like hell. its fascinating.......the bitterness....it runs so deep
 

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lol, this thread right here...:pachaha:

You can be nice and still pull broads, its about having a fukkin spine and not making someone change your whole shyt just because of what's in between they legs. She know you want to fukk so its no point in faking your intentions. When you do that you don't get what you want, which gets you frustrated, then gets you saying stupid shyt like what's been posted in this thread. It's not to say women don't make some mistakes in this but :wtf: if we as men have our standards when we first meet a chick and things we want why can't women have standards of their own? If I want a chick to be on point looks wise(body, clothes, etc) for me to approach her I'm sure she's lookin for something from me in order to make the cypher complete.

You can't have shyt both ways, embrace your humanity stop letting your fear tell you that you gotta be some nice robotic type dude in order for her to be spoken to. Go holla at shawty tell her how you feelin, if she ain't rockin then fukk it you still alive you still healthy go holla at the next chick that make your dikk jump. And stop letting your ego get you all emotional like a bytch cuz she don't want you, you don't get p*ssy by actin p*ssy. If you willing to struggle through the shyt like a real nikka you'll get to the action you lookin for everyone gettin play now started from zero. But if you ain't changing your standards and improving yourself da fukk make you think shyt will change? Don't blame nobody but yourself "nice" brehs, if you played the game right you'd be in business and I've seen it work for thugs and nice guys both.

Get in the game or keep hatin the players in it. It's all on you to make shyt how you want it, and the game ain't never gon change just for little ole you so get over yourself. :camby:
 
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nice people exist and fake nice people exist. if you dont believe that it says more about you than the people your judging. ya'll speak with so much conviction when your generalizing like hell. its fascinating.......the bitterness....it runs so deep

I think when people talk about nice people, they generalize ALL nice people as much as they generalize all cool people or a$$holes.

Some people are genuinely kind people. Too kind, and they only know the disney way of dealing with girls.
 

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Why should a woman be responsible for a man's confidence? He should be confident on his own. And yea, nobody wants to date a loser, male or female. People like people with friends and influence. Would u want to date a chick who was all up under you all the time and had no kind of life of her own? And yea, appearance. Would u want to date a chick who always looked sloppy and unattractive? The shyt I'm talking about is not unreasonable at all.
If being with you will make him confident then whats the issue? You still get what you want.

Ive never met a playa who was shy so whats the issue with a shy dude anyway?

Yea friends and influence is important which is why I asked you if his friends and influence should be the cool kids or respectable people.

If she looked sloppy and then Id influence her to look less sloppy by exploring her mind so we can discover her style together.

The aim of the game is to find a caring and faithful partner which takes priority so I dont stress details like what she wears or if she is chubby especially details that can be changed thanks to my influence.

Well thats the aim for me anyway.

And whats wrong with that??? Some dudes are born with a 40" vertical, should we hate them for having natural ability? Some people will have it easier than others in everything.... people who win at the game don't focus on that, they focus on themselves and play to the best of their ability. A "nice guy" who spends all his time crying about how women want other people, instead of improving on himself not just to attract women, but to meet his own fukking potential and not be a pity party loser, will always be a loser. Why do you give a fukk how much p*ssy other dudes get? Them getting p*ssy does not affect you.
Oh nothing is wrong with being born good looking.

Its just that many men who are nice guys yet want a girl but cant get one choose to become players to get women because many women dont treat male hos like men treat female hos. It is what it is. :yeshrug:
 

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If being with you will make him confident then whats the issue? You still get what you want.

Ive never met a playa who was shy so whats the issue with a shy dude anyway?

Yea friends and influence is important which is why I asked you if his friends and influence should be the cool kids or respectable people.

If she looked sloppy and then Id influence her to look less sloppy by exploring her mind so we can discover her style together.

The aim of the game is to find a caring and faithful partner which takes priority so I dont stress details like what she wears or if she is chubby especially details that can be changed thanks to my influence.

Well thats the aim for me anyway.


If a dude is not confident without a woman, he won't be confident with one. If anything, he will become even more insecure and put that into the relationship out of fear the chick will leave him or will cheat on him. I see it all the time. So no a chick cannot make a man confident. People have to find their own confidence.

His friends should be his friends. It doesn't matter who they are as long as they are good respectable people. Which "the cool kids" can be. Don't put words in my mouth.

If a chick looks sloppy, it will take an investment to get her right. And it is likely she doesn't take care of herself and isn't confident in herself. Thats not really someone I'd want to date. There are many "aims of the game". Yes finding someone caring and faithful is the goal but you don't know that from the jump. And it's a lot easier and more fulfilling to be in a relationship with someone confident + strong enough to exist on their own successfully, rather than constantly needing you to pump them up and drain you of their energy. Which is another reason why chicks don't fukk with whiny ass "nice guys". If people have the choice to hang out with confident people or unconfident people it only makes sense to choose confident people.


Oh nothing is wrong with being born good looking.

Its just that many men who are nice guys yet want a girl but cant get one choose to become players to get women because many women dont treat male hos like men treat female hos. It is what it is. :yeshrug:
Heres the thing though. Many "non players" get quality women as well. "Nice guys" who "switch it up" are just being lazy. Instead of improving themselves as men, they just change the appearance/facade of the same shyt package. If you are unconfident, have a narrow world view, aren't financially secure, etc etc, doesn't matter whether you call yourself a "nice guy" or a "playa".... you are simply not going to have access all the women you want. Those "thugs" who have like 18 bei'mas are the exception to the rule.... most broke ugly deadbeat dudes get no shine. So if a dude wants to be attractive to women he should become what is attractive to them.... not try to guilt them for having standards and desires.
 

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If a dude is not confident without a woman, he won't be confident with one. If anything, he will become even more insecure and put that into the relationship out of fear the chick will leave him or will cheat on him. I see it all the time. So no a chick cannot make a man confident. People have to find their own confidence.

His friends should be his friends. It doesn't matter who they are as long as they are good respectable people. Which "the cool kids" can be. Don't put words in my mouth.

If a chick looks sloppy, it will take an investment to get her right. And it is likely she doesn't take care of herself and isn't confident in herself. Thats not really someone I'd want to date. There are many "aims of the game". Yes finding someone caring and faithful is the goal but you don't know that from the jump. And it's a lot easier and more fulfilling to be in a relationship with someone confident + strong enough to exist on their own successfully, rather than constantly needing you to pump them up and drain you of their energy. Which is another reason why chicks don't fukk with whiny ass "nice guys". If people have the choice to hang out with confident people or unconfident people it only makes sense to choose confident people.
Miss look at those confident males you see everyday. You really think they dont have women who have contributed to their confidence?

Everything a male feels or does is effected by women lol.

A lot get those nice cars, and nice house to get women. A lot would fukk a chick in a cardboard box if they could.

I know NO man whatsoever who has confidence yet didnt get it from women in any way.

You could be the light in their life. :yeshrug:

I never put words in your mouth since I was just asking a question. :smile:

Yea Id prefer that Id of met her where she wasnt a sloppy plain jane but this isnt a movie. Many times you gotta lower your "physical" standards in what you want in a partner to get what you want or else live a life full of your partners cheating on you. :usure:

Heres the thing though. Many "non players" get quality women as well. "Nice guys" who "switch it up" are just being lazy. Instead of improving themselves as men, they just change the appearance/facade of the same shyt package. If you are unconfident, have a narrow world view, aren't financially secure, etc etc, doesn't matter whether you call yourself a "nice guy" or a "playa".... you are simply not going to have access all the women you want. Those "thugs" who have like 18 bei'mas are the exception to the rule.... most broke ugly deadbeat dudes get no shine. So if a dude wants to be attractive to women he should become what is attractive to them.... not try to guilt them for having standards and desires.
There arent many non players or non a$$holes who get quality women unless they have a lot of money. Average dudes on the come up who arent players or a$$holes with potential get ignored everyday.

Many women prefer to date older dudes who were once average nice guys that got ignored by a lot of women before they got a lot of money.

The most attention I ever got from women was back when I was with my ex and many was constantly trying to get me to cheat and once I became single they dissapeared lol.

This has happen to many men which makes them also become players or a$$holes. It aint my fault that many women help players and a$$holes win by showing them that this is most attractive to them. :yeshrug:
 
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Well you seem to believe nice guys and thugs are the same. That's why you keep putting nice guy in quotation marks, so why would i focus on your delusions? That's not what this thread is about.

Why would i keep it the way you said it, especially if im trying to say what i know to be different? The difference between regular and hot and ready is the outfit. Check.

I dismissed it because that isn't what this thread is about, you're trying to say "men do this and that and you get a woman" im saying "nice guy hate, why, for what, we should fix this problem"
I addressed your post, though.
 

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damn this thread still going...i aint even post bout the nice guy shyt lol

lots of generalizations in here on what nice guys are. There are some that use it as a form of (bad) game, some are nice cause they are taught that, some are just those kind of people. nikkas lumping everybody up thoughtlessly. what about people who are nice cause of their christian values, polite folks from strong family values, people who got put thru etiquette school :jiggalol:, dudes who are proud to be gentlemen etc. unfortunately since young women think the world revolves around their p*ssy (tho can't really blame em these days) they assume that all nice guys are the first type :manny:

But this is just when you ask them, people just talkin shyt. These nice dudes get women too. if she's a yes girl who's just into you she not gonna dump you cause she caught you donating to the homeless or some shyt :laugh: . be your nice self, just don't supplicate. be a man

:ufdup:however if you gonna claim niceguy set you better be playing nice guy game and look for a girl in it for the long term. the thots gonna interpret anything nice toward her as supplication and it's downhill from there

And you gotta live with the knowledge of what type of person REALLY gets ya chick wet. makes your partner selection even more difficult.

















ah well sucks for yall:jiggalol:
 

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Miss look at those confident males you see everyday. You really think they dont have women who have contributed to their confidence?

Everything a male feels or does is effected by women lol.

A lot get those nice cars, and nice house to get women. A lot would fukk a chick in a cardboard box if they could.

I know NO man whatsoever who has confidence yet didnt get it from women in any way.

You could be the light in their life. :yeshrug:


This is the logic of an archetypal "nice guy". Confidence comes from inside yourself first. Everything you named comes and goes. Women come and go. Your "nice car" today will be "that old shyt" in a couple of years. A nice house is useless to get women if you can't get the women to your crib in the first place. Ultimately it comes down to how you value yourself. "Nice guys" do not value themselves. They show it in their persistent jealousy of dudes who do better with women, their constant whining, and their lack of confidence. There are dudes with nothing who get women. Why? They are confident, they have self worth. Nice guys don't.

I never put words in your mouth since I was just asking a question. :smile:

Yea Id prefer that Id of met her where she wasnt a sloppy plain jane but this isnt a movie. Many times you gotta lower your "physical" standards in what you want in a partner to get what you want or else live a life full of your partners cheating on you. :usure:


There arent many non players or non a$$holes who get quality women unless they have a lot of money. Average dudes on the come up who arent players or a$$holes with potential get ignored everyday.

Many women prefer to date older dudes who were once average nice guys that got ignored by a lot of women before they got a lot of money.

The most attention I ever got from women was back when I was with my ex and many was constantly trying to get me to cheat and once I became single they dissapeared lol.

This has happen to many men which makes them also become players or a$$holes. It aint my fault that many women help players and a$$holes win by showing them that this is most attractive to them. :yeshrug:
Again more "nice guy" logic. "Nice guys get ignored". No, "nice guys" don't approach women in the first place, or do approach women in a wack way, and then complain. "a$$holes" actually approach women and learn how to talk to and deal with them. "Nice guys" should be figuring out what the "a$$holes" are doing that they aren't, instead of crying about them. Nobody wins a game or accomplishes anything in life sitting around crying and complaining.
 
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They get attached.Especially if it's a guy other women want.Their brains switch over to possessive/territorial/ultra competitive mode.They hate seeing another "bytch" in possession of their resources.That's why some of them fight over nikkaz.Not just financial/material resources, but it can be "social standing" resources...Whatever she values.A nikkaz popularity..swag..rep etc. They don't want another ho tampering around with that

I think subconsciously, females measure their man's value by his ability to attract other women.Females like a challenge.The guy who's a "hot commodity" is more of a "challenge"

With the way the female brain is wired, more "challenging" =more value

That's why so called "nice guys" don't get laid.The problem isn't that nice guys don't get laid, their problem is not being able to act like they do.They give all of themselves right from the start, rendering themselves as low value/desperate.Female instincts are peculiar like that.If a female feels like she doesn't have to work to get you, more than likely, she's not going to want your ass:yeshrug:

That's where their lack of wisdom comes in and they unknowingly create the a$$holes they desire.After that, they get stuck loving the same things they complain about.On some tormented soul/ karma shyt.


It's the ugly shadow side.Once they find that "high value" nikka, then comes the constant state of worry & anxiety.They know other bubble head chicks with the same mentality are going to be constantly checking for their "high value" nikka.Even if it's in her own mind.

Will the constant worry & anxiety cause her to end the relationship? even when her "high value" nikka starts messing around with other ho's? HELL TO DA FUKK NAW....They'll just get a tat that says "Pain Is Love" or some shyt:pachaha:

Once she becomes accustomed to having her emotions played with like that, she's gone for a WHILE.Especially if it happens during that 16-25 time/age span.They might not recover until they're 50.It gets to the point where they expect the roller coaster ride.That's another reason why the so called "nice guy" seems boring.Using her past relationships as an emotional back drop, the "nice guy" doesn't have the emotional range she's used to dealing with.If she's craving a lil drama/excitement, the nice guy's not going to bounce it back at her.Instead, he's going to try to "fix" it and that's not what she wants.That's the thing about drama filled relationships with so called "playas" and "thugs"...THE MAKE UP SEX IS:banderas:and becomes addictive to a lot of chicks.The "nice guy" wont allow them to build up that kind of sexual tension, though.He shies away from the drama:whoa: not knowing that she's just trying to spark a lil sexual tension.One of those lil female "test".A nikka that's really a dog about his will read the signs like :youngsabo:because he already knows where it's leading to:shaq:


Females will never tell you the truth about it.They don't want to destroy the "safety net".They gotta have the simps, squares, and nice guys to fall back on once the "a$$holes" are done with them.Believe it or not, you're a valuable resource, nice guy:smugbiden:.


The Survey-X side of their brain takes over when they're in a public setting.That's the part of the brain that carries information about what is socially acceptable.You know all the right things to say, even when you have no desire to put it into action.

You're not going to see the animalistic side unless you sharpen your instincts.It's a subliminal dimension laced with psycho-sexual energy, subtle body language, and low vibrational emotional ranges(don't over-estimate the emotional range of a lot of these chicks.fukk the degrees..where she works etc..means nothing.She can be 27 with the EMOTIONAL range/maturity of a 12 yr old.Chicks normally date guys in their same emotional range.Look at Baby Boy/ Evette & Jody model.She worked, had her own spot/car...You'd think she was a lil more mature than Jody, but nah, her emotional level was that of an 8 yr old...same as Jody's---art imitating life.)There's a lot of Evettes out here.Some even more sophisticated.Got the ambition from their mom because she "didn't want her to make the same mistakes I made", but that lack of father figure still got them trying to fill the void.Imbalance.Iil girl emotional ranges stuffed into adult avatars with degrees and shyt:wow:

Once you tune into that frequency, it's really quite simple.And since satan has control over us, you really have to communicate through the language of sex.That making love shyt is cool, but you have to mix it up with some "I don't give a shyt" beast fukking.Nice guys have a hard time going there, but it communicates with her mind.Once you have her open, get as nasty as you can get.In.Stick it in her ass.It's a mental thing.A psycho-sexual way of saying "I accept you all the way" booty juice, turds, farts, and all.It's a level of intimacy unknown to the nice guy types.You have to take the initiative to let her know that you're OK with her deepest darkest/most freaky side.Some females feel like they have to put on a front with nice guys.That's why they need that dog nikka they can just let their hair dwon with from time to time.Females can read your energy.They can look at a nikka and tell "He's not ready for all this freaky shyt i'm about to throw at him:usure:"

It's more I wanna say, but this shyt is already too long:merchant:
 

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I think when people talk about nice people, they generalize ALL nice people as much as they generalize all cool people or a$$holes.

Some people are genuinely kind people. Too kind, and they only know the disney way of dealing with girls.
It happens but not at a rate where its its even valid IMO. Just an excuse and we know cats love excuses to justify why shyt ain't going right for them. The only people that are usually genuinely Disney are young boys that don't know no better. Giving grown men thats had any interactions with women that pass please. They trying to mask that other stuff by being rediculously suckerish
 

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Great post, I wanna expand on this.

You were spot on with the new "rules that pop out". Basically if you're basing your method on dealing with women with what they say they want, then it's like the blind leading the blind. When it comes to the topic of sex and what it takes to obtain it, remember 95% of what women say are lies. Idk if it's willfull or not but they are lying. And for good reason. The mystique of "what does it take to get p*ssy" is precisely what has kept the value of vagina up for so long.

If everybody on earth knew how to get sex just from talking to women, who would still be tricking? Who would still buy drinks for random broads in the club who gives you no play afterward? Who's still paying expensive cover charges? Would dudes still invest money in fashion? Would you still pay for dinner dates, flashy whips and shiny jewelry? Nope. The deception of sex lines the pockets of many but women are the biggest benefactors. If everyone knew how to get theirs p*ssy wouldn't be an all expense paid credit card that works even when you don't swipe it :heh:

Be aware of this dynamic. It reveals the true purpose on most of these "dating rules". Most of these rules fit in two categories

The first is rules for women. "don't date him if he's nice" "don't date him if his credit is bad" "don't date him if he doesn't own this or do that" the M.O. is for women have long lists of standards and qualifications (most of which the dudes who actually fukk her don't meet) that forces the men who eat this shyt up to work harder to qualify. Mind you the only ones who stick to these qualifications are dried up birds who wished they hadn't. Think of the asian dudes who think they need to be 6 figure CEO's before they can holla at a bimbo working cashier at Target. Or the nikkas spending all they money on expensive clothes and shoes just to holla at a bytch with 10$ leggings on.

The second ones are for men which women are most vocal about. shyt like

- don't fukk easy chicks
- don't date outside your race
- Don't date girls younger than you (no pedo)
- Don't pull chicks at bars cause you're taking advantage of drunk sluts
- don't date college girls you're taking advantage of their youth and naivete :troll:
- don't be flirty and aggressive seeming like you're trying to fukk
- don't pull chicks in public you'll look thirsty
- don't pull chicks in clubs cuz "she only came here to dance with her friends" :troll:
- don't be nice to her unless you aren't trying to fukk
- don't online date cuz thats for losers
- don't pull off tinder cuz thats for weirdos
- don't pull off facebook cuz thats for creeps
- don't deal with multiple women at once
- don't try to talk to her unless you got ________ (car, crib, credit, more shyt she probably don't got)

I could go on forever. It's all bullshyt women suggest to convince you to whittle down your options. If men as a whole have less options then that ends up driving the price of p*ssy up.

These be the same hoes that defend chasing white dudes to the death but whine and criticize when she see a black dude with a white woman. I've seen scores and scores of women who stay on a soap box about how men shouldn't get p*ssy, but when it's how they should: "not my problem :mjpls:"

Most of these rules and expectations are from superficial people you don't know who are full of shyt. As long as you ain't breaking no laws or hurting anybody get it in where you fit in. fukk everybody on the sidelines hatin.

Usually with posts as profound as this I just give it a dap and keep it moving but I had to acknowledge this one :wow:

This shyt can apply to so many different areas of life too.
 
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Great post, I wanna expand on this.

You were spot on with the new "rules that pop out". Basically if you're basing your method on dealing with women with what they say they want, then it's like the blind leading the blind. When it comes to the topic of sex and what it takes to obtain it, remember 95% of what women say are lies. Idk if it's willfull or not but they are lying. And for good reason. The mystique of "what does it take to get p*ssy" is precisely what has kept the value of vagina up for so long.

If everybody on earth knew how to get sex just from talking to women, who would still be tricking? Who would still buy drinks for random broads in the club who gives you no play afterward? Who's still paying expensive cover charges? Would dudes still invest money in fashion? Would you still pay for dinner dates, flashy whips and shiny jewelry? Nope. The deception of sex lines the pockets of many but women are the biggest benefactors. If everyone knew how to get theirs p*ssy wouldn't be an all expense paid credit card that works even when you don't swipe it :heh:

Be aware of this dynamic. It reveals the true purpose on most of these "dating rules". Most of these rules fit in two categories

The first is rules for women. "don't date him if he's nice" "don't date him if his credit is bad" "don't date him if he doesn't own this or do that" the M.O. is for women have long lists of standards and qualifications (most of which the dudes who actually fukk her don't meet) that forces the men who eat this shyt up to work harder to qualify. Mind you the only ones who stick to these qualifications are dried up birds who wished they hadn't. Think of the asian dudes who think they need to be 6 figure CEO's before they can holla at a bimbo working cashier at Target. Or the nikkas spending all they money on expensive clothes and shoes just to holla at a bytch with 10$ leggings on.

The second ones are for men which women are most vocal about. shyt like

- don't fukk easy chicks
- don't date outside your race
- Don't date girls younger than you (no pedo)
- Don't pull chicks at bars cause you're taking advantage of drunk sluts
- don't date college girls you're taking advantage of their youth and naivete :troll:
- don't be flirty and aggressive seeming like you're trying to fukk
- don't pull chicks in public you'll look thirsty
- don't pull chicks in clubs cuz "she only came here to dance with her friends" :troll:
- don't be nice to her unless you aren't trying to fukk
- don't online date cuz thats for losers
- don't pull off tinder cuz thats for weirdos
- don't pull off facebook cuz thats for creeps
- don't deal with multiple women at once
- don't try to talk to her unless you got ________ (car, crib, credit, more shyt she probably don't got)

I could go on forever. It's all bullshyt women suggest to convince you to whittle down your options. If men as a whole have less options then that ends up driving the price of p*ssy up.

These be the same hoes that defend chasing white dudes to the death but whine and criticize when she see a black dude with a white woman. I've seen scores and scores of women who stay on a soap box about how men shouldn't get p*ssy, but when it's how they should: "not my problem :mjpls:"

Most of these rules and expectations are from superficial people you don't know who are full of shyt. As long as you ain't breaking no laws or hurting anybody get it in where you fit in. fukk everybody on the sidelines hatin.

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