as a reformed stereotypical, "nice" guy, I just want to say that all you nikkas bytchin about women and their love of a$$holes disgust me. I remember what my love life was like before I rethought that whole, "nice" thing and it was borderline pathetic. actually, it was pathetic. I didn't have a problem talking to women and attracting them, my problem was keeping them attracted. the problem was I was trying so hard to be a gentleman and not offend by not being overt in what my intentions were, I was basically putting myself in the friend zone by doing shyt like not initiating the first kiss or not doing so without prompting or whenever a decision of any sort needed to be made I would just say, "whatever you want to do" or "tell me what you want me to do". and when I did manage to actually somehow get into a relationship I would fukk that up by not really being myself. when at work or with friends I was the take charge of the situation, speak my mind with no filter, straight to the point, no bullshyt kind of dude, but when it came to women I wasn't assertive or any of that. I rarely said anything in disagreement. just all-around what I thought women considered, "nice". and each time I was summarily dismissed.
it took a lot of honest and awkward conversations with female friends and exes to figure out where I was going wrong. and as I've been saying in this thread, women do want nice, decent men, but they also want a man with a backbone willing to stand by his convictions and willing to pursue with vigor what it is that he wants. after realizing I wasn't that man, I had to rethink my entire mindset when it came to dating. I had to be willing to disappoint, every once in a while. contrary to the belief of you emotional manginas in this thread, when a woman says she is attracted to a$$holes or jerks, she doesn't mean it in the literal sense as in she likes being cheated on, beaten, and overall disrespected. she means that she wants a man who will put his foot down and stand his ground, even if it means hurting her feelings from time to time, or as my wife calls it when I tell her no or disagree with her opinion on a particular course of action and overrule her, "being a jerk". even if in the moment what i'm saying disappoints her or hurts her feelings, she still appreciates my willingness to do what I think is right.
now even after this period of enlightenment, I still had roadblocks in dating and again, I went to my female counsel to vent my frustration. I was on some, "I guess nice guys and gentlemen do finish last" type shyt. sort of like you losers. that's when my friend, a psychologist by trade, asked me a very basic question, "when it comes to all these failed relationships what's the common denominator in all those relationships? what is the one constant you can point to?" I was like, "me?! are you saying that i'm the one with a problem?! what about all these bytches who would rather be with a man that dogs them out?"
but what I was failing to see was that I chose every single one of those women. I had to do something about my criteria and my selection process. this is the reason I don't understand this circle jerk you guys have going on. if a woman you're pursuing isn't buying what you're offering don't cry about it. find someone who does appreciate what you bring to the table. and wouldn't you know it, not too long after I met my wife and I kept her by being a decent guy who's not afraid to be the bad guy from time to time. relationships are not zero sum. you don't HAVE to be nice/decent OR an a$$hole /thug/jerk etc. women want a modest combination of both. and the women who don't aren't worth your time anyway so who gives a fukk what they think?