Why Are So Many Young Men Against Committment These Days?

[Voice of Reason]

I used to think Coli dudes were bitter weirdos but they are right it’s hard to find a woman with a clean record. 90% of modern women aren’t wife material in the traditional sense. Like a breh said in a previous thread we need to modernize the concept of marriage to make it more desirable.

 

[EARFQUAKE]

Men are called pigs for questioning the amount partners a woman has had. We're called insecure.

Everybody's "allowed" to "roam."

Everyone is complaining about commitment with no receipts to their own.

Even commitment comes after people have gotten their fill. And when the times right, they're back in the streets.

Do you not know of any successful married people in your surrounding area?

Why is it hard for you to find someone that fits your MO?

Do you care about a woman's body count and if so, do you believe that yours would have to be at a certain number as well?

Do you believe in having multiple partners simultaneously and letting all parties know or keeping them in the dark?

Do you engage in temporary relationships for sex and/or do you enjoy a woman's company?

Do you believe there's a direct correlation between one's sexual experience to their mental health?

Do you believe that the temporary relationship culture is causing more unwanted children out of wedlock and high STD rates?

Everyone else may feel free to answer.

 

[Knowledge]

3 chicks in my rotation is married

 

[Matt504]

I used to think Coli dudes were bitter weirdos but they are right it’s hard to find a woman with a clean record. 90% of modern women aren’t wife material in the traditional sense. Like a breh said in a previous thread we need to modernize the concept of marriage to make it more desirable.

There are no men or women with "clean records" which is why I call bullshyt at that bring propped up as a valid excuse. These nikkas simply do not see value in marriage or relationships beyond sex and are also bitter about their lack of access to the women they really want but don't want them.

Young men are against commitment because western culture is toxic and anti relationship. With social media, we're seeing hyper-insecurity and warped views of what qualifies as attractive. These young men are also often spoiled and behave like small children when their peers get to play with the toys they want to.

I disagree with the idea that the game is tilted in women's favor because at the core of it all, people are competing for mates who have whatever resources are most valued to them which means, everybody can eat as long as they have resources and knows what their dating pool is. The most bitter people in relation to dating, more often than not are bitter because they want access to people who are NOT in their dating pool.

 

[Serious]

That's so sad




If a nikka tells you that he'll have a family with you for some p*ssy please be ready when he leaves your ass.

I can't believe this is real, but I can totally see it.

I believe it, of course the attraction of the woman plays a role as well.....

 

[BrehWyatt]

Because it doesn't mean anything anymore.

One doesn't have to commit in order to get the perceived benefits of commitment. If you find the right 'dance partner,' you don't have to commit to get sex regularly. You don't have to commit to get somebody to do for you, to cook for you, to be an emotional rock or whatever else comes with 'commitment.' It's not required. The facade of commitment -- which isn't needed really -- is enough.

I believe men in general are creatures with a means to an end approach. Whether it's life, p*ssy, loyalty, etc... they will generally do what is required -- and no more -- to get a desired result. If I don't have to actually commit to you in order to get the things I feel I need from you in that stage of life, why commit? As @FireDwaneCasey likes to say, commitment is the male vagina. And if we don't have to give it up, if we don't have to open that heart up and basically pledge an unyielding loyalty and desire to care for and provide to a woman in order for her to do the things we want her to do? Then we most certainly will not.

Meanwhile, women are giving up wifey qualities for bum ass nikkas and regular folk that ain't trying to cuff them like that. The same goes for women. If they don't have to exhibit commitment traits (or give up the box/nurturing side) for somebody to do for them, etc... why should they? Men are out here being emotionally available and providing for chicks, doing main nikka shyt for women that ain't worth the privileges.

You used to have to demonstrate certain qualities and a level of loyalty/service/providing in order to get certain things. You used to have to at least portray yourself as about something to get something worthwhile. You don't now. Society's different. Relationships are not the wave like that, and those who actually do want to commit to somebody? Chances are, they aren't able to attract the women they want to commit to, or ignore those who want to reciprocate that to them because they don't see them on their level.

Besides, committing to somebody will not stop them from walking all over your loyalty/allegiance to whatever you're trying to build with them.

What benefit is there to committing when it means nothing, and it will not stop heauxs -- man or woman -- from heauxing?

 

[Serious]

I used to think Coli dudes were bitter weirdos but they are right it’s hard to find a woman with a clean record. 90% of modern women aren’t wife material in the traditional sense. Like a breh said in a previous thread we need to modernize the concept of marriage to make it more desirable.

I agree but disagree.....

The problem is people arent as social as the past. Sure there's social media, but it's also important to remember that social media is never a true representation of the overall population. It's just that the loudest, most popular, well spoken and flamboyant peeps are always noticeable.

There's still tons of modern / tradition men and women out there but their social groups are just more isolated then the past. While technology has brought many unlikely people together and fostered geographically isolated romances that may have never existed before, it has also limited many common previous interactions.

For example: If someone cops gear online, now they're less likely to go to the mall. This means they're decreasing their potential chances of organically running someone into who genuinely digs their style or likes coffee a certain way....

As far as the concept of marriage, vetting will always be important, but different people look for different things. Communication no matter what is the key. As far as marriage what is vital for me, is a sense of selflessness and an ability tobe vulnerable. Those are two attributes that I really seek and are deal breakers otherwise.

 

[ORDER_66]

Because men could be doing right, and women will still cheat or fukk up the relationship on some chasing drama bullshyt...

What is the point of a long term relationship nowadays... call me jaded but alot of females be grimy not knowing what they want, always complicating things... I've seen dudes get put through the ringer just like I was... Why should the man put himself on the fukking line for a chick if she's just gonna take it all when she divorces you??? I think alot of dudes now seeing these women these days aint really shyt, even if you choose better women's emotions are like a fukking seasonal storm who knows what she's gonna do next week, to next week...

So what's the ultimate goal, for her to have kids with you, fall in love with the kids, get married, build a house together, only for her to get BORED and find some new dikk, kick you out take your house move the new dikk in, take your kid by law and have you pay child support and spousal support...

Nah fukk it. marriage aint worth it.

 

[datnigDASTARDLY]

For example: If someone cops gear online, now they're less likely to go to the mall. This means they're decreasing their potential chances of organically running someone into who genuinely digs their style or likes coffee a certain way....

As far as the concept of marriage, vetting will always be important, but different people look for different things. Communication no matter what is the key. As far as marriage what is vital for me, is a sense of selflessness and an ability tobe vulnerable. Those are two attributes that I really seek and are deal breakers otherwise.

Facts! You can't build a relationship on lust and a pretty face.

Be friends, be earnest, be good to each other...actually give a fukk and try.

If it doesn't work, pick better and try again. Don't quit and become bitter like some 40 year old loser

 

[Kex]

I feel like this is a race issue. If you don’t see the financial benefits of a solid commitment then

 

[Serious]

I feel like this is a race issue. If you don’t see the financial benefits of a solid commitment then

Depends on the partner though. Remember men are expected to pay for most of the dates and bills in a partnership. I had a partner who knew I had a decent amount of disposable income after taking care of bills, but she always felt entitled to go out somewhere "nice" every weekend, while not contributing to any funds. I was losing money dealing wit her, because she wanted to try and post shyt for the gram like she was living some type of way.

The concept of staying in and cooking meals was always left her bitter, despite me telling her I'm trying invest my money now, so that it'll be worth more in the future. She understood the concept but hated when I put it to practice.

A lot of peeps(men and women) only want the finished product, but hate going through the process. . At the end of the day, the only real thing she brought to the relationship was lackluster companionship and sex. I can get that anywhere, while spending an eighth of what I did.Now I'd rather just save my money, do the bare minimum(just enough to smash or properly vet), unless they display attributes which demonstrate that we're on the same wave,

And it's not a race issue, I talk with dudes from other races, and they've complained about roughly the same shyt.

 

[Bless't]

Facts! You can't build a relationship on lust and a pretty face.

Be friends, be earnest, be good to each other...actually give a fukk and try.

If it doesn't work, pick better and try again. Don't quit and become bitter like some 40 year old loser

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Even against long term relationships?

We need answers:DonaldSmirk:

@Strategicbreh

Cause women fukking for nothing now

Let’s be real. Men been wanting to fukk on day 1, since the beginning of time. What stopped us was women. And the stigma that you don’t fukk, move in with, or take a man seriously if he ain’t marrying you. Or at least engaged or dating for a while


Nowadays I can get meet a bytch Friday night and by Saturday night, I’m at her crib getting a meal, a movie, a bottle, a backrub and some p*ssy. Why would I commit to that? What extra will I get? She already gave me everything

And when she start tripping bout relationships, there’s 500 other women in the same radius, doing the same shyt. That used to be rare. Now the virtuous ones are the rare ones

 

[Behind-the-wheel]

From what I see from a married perspective...it goes like this.

Women have nothing to offer but a p*ssy nowadays.
Not good conversation, future goals, meaningful banter....nothing.
Society has gotten worse since my dating days, but what I see is a society caught up on looks instead of substance.
Of course, shallow men roll right into this and lap it up like manna from heaven.
So you have a downward spiral in society that isn't correcting anytime soon.

When I was single I noticed it happening. I wanted marriage material...so that's what I sought after.
The things I want from life can only come with a stable relationship and two people working hard on those goals.
If I just wanted to fukk hoes and travel I would have stayed single.

 

[BrehWyatt]

For example: If someone cops gear online, now they're less likely to go to the mall. This means they're decreasing their potential chances of organically running someone into who genuinely digs their style or likes coffee a certain way....

You never really think about that until someone else says it.