Why are Y'all against fastfood workers making $15/HR???

[JasonSJackson]

it never ceases to amaze me how the people of this society are so adamant in their defense of a system that is against them.........

hold the boot on ur neck tightly brehs

 

[Kalik]

How is fast food/retail meant for high school kids when its open all day


When Wal-Mart moves into a new small town and obliterates every small business within 4 miles.....are all those new jobs that are now supplied by Wal-Mart instead of the small businesses, meant for "high school" kids

College kids then? I graduated with my degree at 19. Lets say 14-22 after that McDonalds shouldn't be the job on top of your resume.


It doesn't matter if they open 24/7... as an adult you should know when I "better start looking elsewhere"

 

[KritNC]

Jobs that Currently pay around $15/hr http://bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm

How many of these are more skilled than flipping burgers?

Cooling and Freezing Equipment Operators and Tenders


$30,020



Woodworkers


$30,140



Woodworkers, All Other


$30,150



Manufactured Building and Mobile Home Installers


$30,160



Other Education, Training, and Library Occupations


$30,180



Etchers and Engravers


$30,230



Animal Trainers


$30,340



Recreation and Fitness Workers


$30,370



Production Workers, All Other


$30,380



Molding, Coremaking, and Casting Machine Setters, Operators, and Tenders, Metal and Plastic


$30,400



Other Office and Administrative Support Workers


$30,410



Pharmacy Technicians


$30,430



Molders and Molding Machine Setters, Operators, and Tenders, Metal and Plastic


$30,510



Medical Assistants


$30,550



Grounds Maintenance Workers, All Other


$30,620



Religious Workers, All Other


$30,650



Shipping, Receiving, and Traffic Clerks


$30,700



Preschool Teachers, Except Special Education


$30,750



Molders, Shapers, and Casters, Except Metal and Plastic


$30,770



Social and Human Service Assistants


$30,880



Phlebotomists


$30,910



Assemblers and Fabricators


$30,970



Electrical and Electronic Equipment Assemblers


$30,970



Cutting, Punching, and Press Machine Setters, Operators, and Tenders, Metal and Plastic


$31,090



Helpers--Brickmasons, Blockmasons, Stonemasons, and Tile and Marble Setters


$31,100



Cutting Workers


$31,230



Interviewers, Except Eligibility and Loan


$31,270



Order Clerks


$31,280



Conveyor Operators and Tenders


$31,360



Electrical, Electronics, and Electromechanical Assemblers


$31,400



Data Entry and Information Processing Workers


$31,430



Veterinary Technologists and Technicians


$31,470



Bus Drivers


$31,480



Motor Vehicle Operators, All Other


$31,510



Print Binding and Finishing Workers


$31,560



Foundry Mold and Coremakers


$31,600



Miscellaneous Healthcare Support Occupations


$31,640



Skincare Specialists


$31,720



Model Makers, Wood


$31,740



Upholsterers


$31,750



Adhesive Bonding Machine Operators and Tenders


$31,780



First-Line Supervisors of Food Preparation and Serving Workers


$31,820



Outdoor Power Equipment and Other Small Engine Mechanics


$31,820



Plating and Coating Machine Setters, Operators, and Tenders, Metal and Plastic


$31,830



Coating, Painting, and Spraying Machine Setters, Operators, and Tenders


$31,870



Information and Record Clerks


$31,940

Pretty much every single job you posted what type of magic do you think these fast food workers are doing back there

Just curious what is your age occupation an income looking like

 

[CrimsonTider]

Give me a devils advocate answer on why you think, fast food chains are having increased older workers. Was it the recession post 2001, was it the influx of tech at jobs that now require less labor? Is it an influx of foreign immigrants that take these jobs? Is it the fact that fast food chains, continue to open more rapidly than other business models? Therefore, they take on higher staff populous compared to say a tech based job opening? (Cell phone store 3 employees, or some web based store small employee ratio vs 20-30 at a Taco Bell)

What's your viewpoint

It's some of that.

But, a lot of the problem is that there use to be a plethora of jobs available when you did t need college degree to work there and made enough to support a family.

The same people working at MCD would have been a factory worker making 20 an hour with the same exact skillset

With the way Public education and healthcare is gong to college and getting skills that are in demand is not realistic for a large segment of America

Not to mention, Technoolgy absorbed a lot of jobs, more than the government ever anticipated of planned for.

 

[Kalik]

College kids then? I graduated with my degree at 19. Lets say 14-22 after that McDonalds shouldn't be the job on top of your resume

It's some of that.

But, a lot of the problem is that there use to be a plethora of jobs available when you did t need college degree to work there and made enough to support a family.

The same people working at MCD would have been a factory worker making 20 an hour with the same exact skillset

With the way Public education and healthcare is gong to college and getting skills that are in demand is not realistic for a large segment of America

Not to mention, Technoolgy absorbed a lot of jobs, more than the government ever anticipated of planned for.

Breh I just believe increasing what the pay scale is across the board for fast food will be negative, as less people may strive to work a regular job for lets say $5000 increase in pay. Why be a teacher/soldier/retail/tradesman making $35,000-40,000 when the kid at MickeyDees bringing home 30k?

Everything then shifts, costing more... its just rapid inflation.

 

[Malik]

Lemme guess. You'd want everyone to work $15/hr McDonalds jobs, while our white collar economy is taken over by immigrant engineers/analysts/scientists/etc.

Oh that's going to happen anyway. There's a glut of engineers and scientists in India/China RIGHT NOW making 25K a year because its too many of them. I expect firms to start outsourcing those white collar jobs in our lifetime. shyt would really be real then You too busy worrying about the little man making fries to see who the real enemy is though



People dont deserve a livable wage because their skills are replaceable. In this era of globalization, I hope you feel the same way when firms figure out how to replace you

 

[CrimsonTider]

Pretty much every single job you posted what type of magic do you think these fast food workers are doing back there

Just curious what is your age occupation an income looking like

You're joking right?

Those jobs are on the same level as a cook.

I have a masters and I work in the same field as my masters and bachelor degree

 

[CrimsonTider]

Breh I just believe increasing what the pay scale is across the board for fast food will be negative, as less people may strive to work a regular job for lets say $5000 increase in pay. Why be a teacher/soldier/retail/tradesman making $35,000-40,000 when the kid at MickeyDees bringing home 30k?

Everything then shifts, costing more... its just rapid inflation.

Teachers, soldiers etc have an upward mobility on salary that the MCD won't have.

I don't think many people will be alright with making 30,000 a year for the test of their lives

 

[Kalik]

I don't think many people will be alright with making 30,000 a year for the rest of their lives

Breh, this aint Spongebob... Fry Cook aint a job you keep forever.

If so they better diversify and flip something else on the side... illegally.

Yeah... I know its not the right answer... but damn. 30 years on the grill?

 

[CrimsonTider]

because they dont deserve it, fukk just about anybody can flip burgers nikka, and they dont even do they job that good

I updated the thread for you and @Rawtid

Post 89

Look at the jobs that do pay that much... Why do they deserve it?

Fastfood workers want to essentially be paid the same as school bus drivers and shipping clerks

And you idiots have a problem with it

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Oh that's going to happen anyway. There's a glut of engineers and scientists in India/China RIGHT NOW making 25K a year because its too many of them.

And a lot of them are coming over here and ballin' so what's your point?

I expect firms to start outsourcing those white collar jobs in our lifetime. shyt would really be real then You too busy worrying about the little man making fries to see who the real enemy is though

I am not worried about them specifically. You just obviously have no idea how inflation works and how it's bad for all of us in the long run. McDonalds gets their raise. Cool. No every unskilled employee will be demanding similar pay raises.

Watch as the price of your gas, groceries, food, clothing, utilities, transportation, etc. increases while your check stays the same.

Y'all are the type of people who think the problem to solving the U.S. economy is to just to print more money.

People dont deserve a livable wage because their skills are replaceable. In this era of globalization, I hope you feel the same way when firms figure out how to replace you

There's no way to replace my job friend. I actually have skills that are valued, technical, and that require human opinion/consultation/reasoning/intuition/judgment. Pretty sure you don't though since you think the shyt is unfathomable.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Breh, this aint Spongebob... Fry Cook aint a job you keep forever.

If so they better diversify and flip something else on the side... illegally

So hardworking people who make a honest living everyday in America

Should be forced to get involved in illegal activities because the company their working for is profiting in the billions can't afford to pay them a little more

 

[King Poetic]

the max should be $11 dollars an hour period.

The pay goes up once u get promoted to a manager position.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

People are killing me with this "just go to school" bit, who's paying for this school? Do we not already have a generation of underemployed over leveraged college grads who can't pay their loans? Do you know how many people go to college and still end up in basic ass jobs? Do you not see that education has been in shambles for close to two decades and is not a top priority for governments. There are plenty of people who drop out of college/training programs cuz their minimum wage job doesn't cover tuition or bills. There will always be an unskilled labor force, the market and society is not set up for everyone to be gainfully employed or hold skilled jobs, but the increasing gap between pay, accelerating cost of living, shrinking job market for the unskilled, and ruthless employment practices of hourly employers drive these folks to need a pay hike

 

[Da Jungles]

Cats complaining about paying 20 cents more for their fast food, yet bringing in 6 figures a year.

Something isn't adding up