Why Can’t California Solve Its Housing Crisis?

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Econ 101, rise in demand = rise in supply, or a rise in prices. A rise in pice should cause a rise in supply alone. California has for some reason made it too difficult to build enough house to meet the demand. That's not a fault of capitalism, that's a failure of state and local government.
The reason California cant build enough houses is because there are large areas where only expensive single family homes for the wealthy can be built.

You can trace the why to capitalism.

When capitalism becomes so unchecked that it literally starts dictating how the government moves, that's when its officially a problem.
 

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Why does the word "capitalism" keep getting used in this thread. The whole country is capitalist but this problem is only snowballing in California.
i agree it's not just about capitalism, but this is something that's taking place in a lot of metro regions across the country. they're where the bay was 20 years ago (dallas, austin, denver, seattle - which is pretty much mirroring what's happening in the bay). what exacerbates it here is that the bay area was already a costly region before the current boom + it was never built/zoned for the levels of density currently being demanded of it, you don't solve a structural issue like that overnight.

add to the fact that it's really only one industry driving the growth and all the companies want to be co-located in the same corridor creating even fiercer competition.
 

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Econ 101, rise in demand = rise in supply, or a rise in prices. A rise in pice should cause a rise in supply alone. California has for some reason made it too difficult to build enough house to meet the demand. That's not a fault of capitalism, that's a failure of state and local government.

Not when land is a scarce resource in a city like SF. I just went there and the city physically just isn't big enough to accommodate the demand for housing there. It would require bulldozing a lot of those beautiful Victorian houses, to increase density, which (the very rich) homeowners there will never let happen.
 

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Not when land is a scarce resource in a city like SF. I just went there and the city physically just isn't big enough to accommodate the demand for housing there. It would require bulldozing a lot of those beautiful Victorian houses, to increase density, which (the very rich) homeowners there will never let happen.
i detailed this in my reply to the thread. people moved here in droves like this was NYC, and now they're demanding the density of NYC in a city that one, is smaller, two, half of which is built on landfill and earthquake prone, three, a place people loved because the buildings weren't high. i get the frustration of nimbyism, at the same time, some of it is justified. just because a bunch of millennials and gen xers decided to move back into the city and demand housing now doesn't mean people are going to acquiesce
 
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i detailed this in my reply to the thread. people moved here in droves like this was NYC, and now they're demanding the density of NYC in a city that one, is smaller, two, half of which is built on landfill and earthquake prone, three, a place people loved because the buildings weren't high. i get the frustration of nibyism, at the same time, some of it is justified. just because a bunch of millennials and gen xers decided to move back into the city and demand housing now doesn't mean people are going to acquiesce


My bet, forgot about your reply.

But yeah, as someone who's never been to west coast before I was surprised that SF wasn't as big as I thought it would be, which is not really a bad thing. But it does put all that new tech money into perspective when talking about the lack of housing in SF and (I imagine) Oakland.
 

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Housing has been one of San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo’s top priorities since he took office in 2015. When talking about it, he uses the local dialect, referring to solutions the city can “scale in a really disruptive way.” The parking lot, though, is about as low-tech as it gets, which is how you can tell it wasn’t originally part of the plan.

hilarious
 

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Hate to say this, but unprecended population growth in the last 20 years caused,this. People will come to terms about this since the standard of living is dropping mssively
 

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The inlands have plenty of land for growth, it just needs railways for mass transit
 

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Super high cost for housing(rents and mortgages).
and its Cali. everyone wants to be here especially if they're homeless. why? the weather and we have some of the better homeless resources in the US if not the best.

If you did a census on the homeless quite a few of these people are not californians. this means, yall need to take some of your citizens back and house them. if i were running the US, thats what i would propose. yes i would have all kinds of plans but first things first. each state/city take your people back. then we will work on the problem locally. but first things first.

look at it like this. lets say by some miracle Cali does a number like one of those norwegian countries. and gets rid of homelessness. all that would happen is, the word would get out that cali is housing everyone. and MORE people that are homeless or on the edge of being homeless would flock here for cover and great weather.
 
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