Why did black people abandon house/EDM music?

[Benefited]

So do you dismiss all music that had homosexuals involved? Homosexuals are creatives by nature and have been heavily involved in every major artistic movement. They’re all up and through gospel music which has influenced most American music genres. Can anyone deny the influence of George Cleveland? What about hip hop? Can anyone deny the influence of Bambaatta? Despite their own personal issues......

The gays were a non-issue to straight house heads, they just cared about the good music.

Some of y’all folks are that insecure that you feel that you going to turn gay by listening to the music?

I 100% reject music that caters to homosexuals,thats what the disco scene consisted of heavily. Straight black dudes mingling with and playing music for homos and europeans to vibe to. Don't you dare bring gospel or hiphop into this because neither for the most part SOUND homosexual,and your overstating the gay influence. And I wouldn't rock with artist who catered to a gay fanbase because obviously its not for me. Hiphop and gospel are for straight black people,disco was not specefically and catered to homos and europeans as well.

 

[3rdWorld]

So do you dismiss all music that had homosexuals involved? Homosexuals are creatives by nature and have been heavily involved in every major artistic movement. They’re all up and through gospel music which has influenced most American music genres. Can anyone deny the influence of George Cleveland? What about hip hop? Can anyone deny the influence of Bambaatta? Despite their own personal issues......

The gays were a non-issue to straight house heads, they just cared about the good music.

Some of y’all folks are that insecure that you feel that you going to turn gay by listening to the music?

I remember on a house forum some old dude who's straight saying back in the day if you wanted to hear the best music you had to go to a gay club..

 

[invalid]

And I wouldn't rock with artist who catered to a gay fanbase because obviously its not for me. Hiphop and gospel are for straight black people,disco was not specefically and catered to homos and europeans as well.

Breh

Gospel music sounds pretty gay to me. What other music genre’s central focus is about singing to a “daddy” in the sky.

Also, gospel music is catered to straight black women and gay black men.

 

[Mowgli]

Straight men try to not party with flaming homosexuals

 

[Benefited]

Breh

Gospel music sounds pretty gay to me. What other music genre’s central focus is about singing to a “daddy” in the sky.

Also, gospel music is catered to straight black women and gay black men.

Your just on the defenseive now,saying ridiculous things

Wont be seeing two nikkas kissing right next to you at church,thats the "vibe music" you listening to,and is something wrong with music catering to black women?music that caters to black women can cater to black men as well,ever heard of RNB/Soul Music? I want no parts of music that gained popularity through the gay scene and gay culture,thats heavily how your music was birthed and hasn't evolved to where it doesn't still sound like it would fit right in

 

[invalid]

That's fine..but in house music I have never ever heard a song with gay themes in it. Never! They sing of peace and love between man and woman and all people which is rare in other forms of Black music these days.

I wouldn’t go that far. Ever heard of Baby Wants to Ride? Although Jaimie uses the pronoun “she” you know very well whom he is really taking about.



Till this day I do skip over that song.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

I mean if we’re being honest, they ran it into the ground in the early 90’s.

Every song on the radio had that same production style

 

[Samori Toure]

nikkas don’t get paid, but cacs do their watered down version of our music and do.

Whites did covers of black rock songs to “clean up” the songs and they got paid from them.. pushed us out

Also, y’all know that “tropical house” is actually gentrified dancehall right?

Same thing with Country music. That was actually Black music that was played on the plantations in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia. White Appalachian people heard the music and latched on to it and now the music is considered White music. Now days modern day Country music is just stealing from Rock and Roll and Rap; which are also Black music.

 

[3rdWorld]

I wouldn’t go that far. Ever heard of Baby Wants to Ride? Although Jaimie uses the pronoun “she” you know very well whom he is really taking about.



Till this day I do skip over that song.

There's a Luther track where he says 'he' and not 'she'..
I recall my sister and her friends being disturbed by that line..

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I 100% reject music that caters to homosexuals,thats what the disco scene consisted of heavily. Straight black dudes mingling with and playing music for homos and europeans to vibe to. Don't you dare bring gospel or hiphop into this because neither for the most part SOUND homosexual,and your overstating the gay influence. And I wouldn't rock with artist who catered to a gay fanbase because obviously its not for me. Hiphop and gospel are for straight black people,disco was not specefically and catered to homos and europeans as well.

Disco did not specifically cater to homos or europeans. This is an overstated myth that clouds the fact that disco was born from straight black men (gamble and huff) and that the black & straight overground clubs/night club spots/park dj's in NYC were more numerous and those are the same spots that had the first rapping dj's w/2 turntables, that would lay the foundation for hiphop

I always thought that shyt was trash,and sounded like it was created by europeans and homosexuals just like this article is talking about
Before you talk about hiphop influenced house,its not the same thing. Because its the hiphop influence that makes it listenable and okay,not the house influence.

the same music that later came to be disco (soul and funk) is the same music HipHop got it's sound from. Disco culture/music is the main father of both house and hiphop

 

[Benefited]

Disco did not specifically cater to homos or europeans. This is an overstated myth that clouds the fact that disco was born from straight black men (gamble and huff) and that the black & straight overground clubs/night club spots/park dj's in NYC were more numerous and those are the same spots that had the first rapping dj's w/2 turntables, that would lay the foundation for hiphop




the same music that later came to be disco (soul and funk) is the same music HipHop got it's sound from. Disco culture/music is the main father of both house and hiphop

It wasn't specefically catered to straight black people is what I was saying,black gospel and hiphop were catered to straight black people specefically.

Plus with that last part,you missed the main point. It may have been the father,but it was quickly thrown in the bushes for what was hiphop that became black music. Hiphop originally wasn't black music either as it didn't cater specefically to black people and the sound was disco. The hiphop aspect is what made the disco inspired hiphop listenable,just like it makes house listenable. The hiphop culutre is what helped house and disco,not the other way around. Can't say the same for funk,hiphop didn't make funk music listenable,and funk was never thrown in the bushes and never will be. Black people collectively made this decision to answer op's question. It was abandoned for a blacker,less assimilated form of music. Getting back to our roots,it was abandoned for a good cause.

 

[The Fade]

Same thing with Country music. That was actually Black music that was played on the plantations in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia. White Appalachian people heard the music and latched on to it and now the music is considered White music. Now days modern day Country music is just stealing from Rock and Roll and Rap; which are also Black music.

Yep with country and jazz, they never stopped the propaganda of it being nword/jungle music using c00n artistry. Always referred to it as the downfall of society..


Now look at it, they can’t stay away from it

 

[invalid]

Your just on the defenseive now,saying ridiculous things

Lol, not getting defensive. For those that consider ourselves music connoisseurs, good music is good music irrespective of the source. There is no need to be defensive about that. I'm pretty forward about the fact that I can find good music in EVERY genre, including country.

I do have one last question. So in order for you to listen to or find music acceptable, the music has to speak to the straight black male and female experience or cater to that demographic?

 

[CrimsonTider]

Maybe coz it’s objectively horrible music

It just doesn’t have much appeal

 

[Abstract83]

I'm black and I made these house mixes