Why did black people abandon house/EDM music?

[Benefited]

Lol, not getting defensive. For those that consider ourselves music connoisseurs, good music is good music irrespective of the source. There is no need to be defensive about that. I'm pretty forward about the fact that I can find good music in EVERY genre, including country.

I do have one last question. So in order for you to listen to or find music acceptable, the music has to speak to the straight black male and female experience or cater to that demographic?

I don't think that makes you a music connoisseur because you can find good music in every genre. That describes just about anybody who isn't a closed minded idiot,who is actually willing to open their ears over the course of there entire life,or if they actually search out music of other genres.

Thats why your question isn't a fair question,because sure there are disco songs/house songs I have heard that weren't trash,there are country and rock songs I have heard that weren't trash. But yes,if the music isn't black music,that caters to black people chances are as a whole that genre will be wack to me. I can't think of any genre that is the exception.Hiphop that doesn't fit that description falls into the same category as those genres and is trash too. But overall as a genre it hasn't gotten to that place yet.

And I am not taking away black contributions,but I personally don't think black inventors/pioneers neccesarily make something black music. There was clearly a point where rock n roll was no longer black music too. I personally think house was nikkas trying something different that black people have decided wasn't black music and it was abandoned for other blacker genres just like rock.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

It wasn't specefically catered to straight black people is what I was saying,black gospel and hiphop were catered to straight black people specefically.

straight people were the main audiences for all those styles of black music, that doesn't mean homo's aren't in the mix.

Plus with that last part,you missed the main point. It may have been the father,but it was quickly thrown in the bushes for what was hiphop that became black music. Hiphop originally wasn't black music either as it didn't cater specefically to black people and the sound was disco.

The hiphop aspect is what made the disco inspired hiphop listenable,just like it makes house listenable.

no, it was actually the disco template (what became the quick mix) and the disco-funk sounds (good times->rappers delight) that made it's offshoot (hiphop) spread quick into the mainstream

The hiphop culutre is what helped house and disco,not the other way around.

disco culture from the black overground is what helped hiphop from the rapping down to the djing

Can't say the same for funk,hiphop didn't make funk music listenable,and funk was never thrown in the bushes and never will be.

hiphop brought funk back to mainstream after disco ate it up and then r&b got softer and glossy in the 80's

Black people collectively made this decision to answer op's question. It was abandoned for a blacker,less assimilated form of music. Getting back to our roots,it was abandoned for a good cause.

wrong..it wasn't abandoned.....the regions that birthed EDM are the same regions (detroit, chicago and new york) today that still fully rock with it. All the other regions where blacks live were never on to it in the first place.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

It just doesn’t have much appeal

house music is globally bigger than rap and any other genre you can think of

 

[CrimsonTider]

house music is globally bigger than rap and any other genre you can think of

I’m talking about in the US

 

[8WON6]

straight people were the main audiences for all those style of black music, that doesn't mean homo's aren't in the mix.

no, it was actually the disco template (what became the quick mix) and the disco-funk sounds (good times->rappers delight) that made it's offshoot (hiphop) spread quick into the mainstream





disco culture from the black overground is what helped hiphop from the rapping down to the djing



hiphop brought funk back to mainstream after disco ate it up an then r&b got softer and glossy in the 80's






wrong..it wasn't abandoned.....the regions that birthed EDM are the same regions (detroit, chisago and new york) to day that still fully rock with it. All the other regions where blacks live were never on to it in the first place.

repped, for always holding it down with the music knowledge. People always pop up trying to claim some African American/Black music as their own.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I’m talking about in the US

in the usa it's too regional

 

[Benefited]

straight people were the main audiences for all those styles of black music, that doesn't mean homo's aren't in the mix.

no, it was actually the disco template (what became the quick mix) and the disco-funk sounds (good times->rappers delight) that made it's offshoot (hiphop) spread quick into the mainstream





disco culture from the black overground is what helped hiphop from the rapping down to the djing



hiphop brought funk back to mainstream after disco ate it up and then r&b got softer and glossy in the 80's






wrong..it wasn't abandoned.....the regions that birthed EDM are the same regions (detroit, chicago and new york) today that still fully rock with it. All the other regions where blacks live were never on to it in the first place.

The disco helped it spread into the mainstream because cacs loved it and didn't view it as threatning black music. I'm speaking on the fact it helped make it listenable,hiphop influenced house is the only listenable house I've heard,I wasn't talking popularity wise.

But at the end of the day,becoming black music is what made it really pop any way so you are still wrong about that. shyt would have died quickly if it had stayed on that rappers delight wave. Funk left the mainstream after being watered down,rnb got softer and glossy and became less black do you see a pattern?. These artforms get big,are forced to try to cater to non blacks and they are bushed by new black genres that cater to black people. it took Hiphop as the new black genre to brring funk and rnb and soul back. Sounds like you are saying black people fukk with house heavy in 3 locations.But white people fukk with that EDM garbage everywhere,yet you are still trying to call house black music? It's not and never really was outside of the skin color of its creators.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

They grew up on parliment and should have stuck with that,funk is black music.
I guess you will leave out the part where they were inspired by Disco?first thing I read when researching this

"It all started in Chicago’s Southside in 1977, when a new kind of club opened. This new Chicago club called The Warehouse gave House music its name. Frankie Knuckles, who opened The Warehouse, mixed old disco classics and new Eurobeat pop. It was at this legendary club where many of the experiments were tried. It was also where Acid House got its start.

House was the first direct descendant of disco"

Disco is homosexual music from nikkas who occupied european spaces,that were homosexual environments
Like I said,that shyt is trash and not black music. Not saying it's white music either,but definitely not black music and nikkas have unanimously rejected it overall.
Use your ears,ears don't lie.

Are you high?

Disco was invented by Black people for Black people.

Europeans aint invent no damned Disco

MFSB, who were from Philly and the George McCrae and dudes like that made the first Disco songs to pop off.

Hell, the dude from The Tramps is the one who invented the "four on the floor" Disco beat that everybody in Disco & House use

I 100% reject music that caters to homosexuals,thats what the disco scene consisted of heavily. Straight black dudes mingling with and playing music for homos and europeans to vibe to. Don't you dare bring gospel or hiphop into this because neither for the most part SOUND homosexual,and your overstating the gay influence. And I wouldn't rock with artist who catered to a gay fanbase because obviously its not for me. Hiphop and gospel are for straight black people,disco was not specefically and catered to homos and europeans as well.

Disco didn't cater to homosexuals, it just was ALL INCLUSIVE, so gays flocked to it because it didn't tell them they were "sinful" like gospel does or marginalize them like rock n roll did.

The hiphop culutre is what helped house and disco,not the other way around.

Are you kidding?

"Rapper's Delight", the first rap single sampled Chic's "Good Times" for fukk sake

 

[Monoblock]

The disco helped it spread into the mainstream because cacs loved it and didn't view it as threatning black music. I'm speaking on the fact it helped make it listenable,hiphop influenced house is the only listenable house I've heard,I wasn't talking popularity wise.

But at the end of the day,becoming black music is what made it really pop any way so you are still wrong about that. shyt would have died quickly if it had stayed on that rappers delight wave. Funk left the mainstream after being watered down,rnb got softer and glossy and became less black do you see a pattern?. These artforms get big,are forced to try to cater to non blacks and they are bushed by new black genres that cater to black people. it took Hiphop as the new black genre to brring funk and rnb and soul back. Sounds like you are saying black people fukk with house heavy in 3 locations.But white people fukk with that EDM garbage everywhere,yet you are still trying to call house black music? It's not and never really was outside of the skin color of its creators.

Yo what the fukk are you even talking about? Disco was invented by black people and hip hop didnt bring funk and RnB back. The hell man how old are you?

 

[Benefited]

Are you high?

Disco was invented by Black people for Black people.

Europeans aint invent no damned Disco

MFSB, who were from Philly and the George McCrae and dudes like that made the first Disco songs to pop off.

Hell, the dude from The Tramps is the one who invented the "four on the floor" Disco beat that everybody in Disco & House use





Disco didn't cater to homosexuals, it just was ALL INCLUSIVE, so gays flocked to it because it didn't tell them they were "sinful" like gospel does or marginalize them like rock n roll did.




Are you kidding?

"Rapper's Delight", the first rap single sampled Chic's "Good Times" for fukk sake

So which is it? Was it by black people for black people?or was it all inclusive
And before you say hiphop is all inclusive,it was,which is why I say it wasnt black music at its inception.once it became black music there was no mistaking who it was by and for rather non blacks participated or not. Disco never made that clear distinction.

 

[Benefited]

Yo what the fukk are you even talking about? Disco was invented by black people and hip hop didnt bring funk and RnB back. The hell man how old are you?

This discussion was had and people agreed,the creator doesn't neccesarily make a genre a black genre.
Do black creators neccessarily make a genre black?I say no,some say yes.

ANd how didn't it?RnB had got so watered down and pop in the 80's,and you had the commercializtion of funk which was killed off by hiphop. BUt hiphop incorporated soul Soul Music and funk into the music,which in itself bought funk and soul back though in a different form. Plus are you going to ignore the influence hiphop had on new jack swing which took over rnb,and the creatives that really bought 90's rnb back to its glory and made it less pop and more soulful again?

 

[315]

Ain't no real reason for not fukkin with it lol

 

[Jim Cornette]

i fukk wit deep house, dubstep, some dnb... but i love anything wit a deep wobbly bassline



i grew up round a lot of cac bytches.. and i went to a lot festivals, shyt was lit

beats biccys n booty

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The disco helped it spread into the mainstream because cacs loved it and didn't view it as threatning black music. I'm speaking on the fact it helped make it listenable,hiphop influenced house is the only listenable house I've heard,I wasn't talking popularity wise.

But at the end of the day,becoming black music is what made it really pop any way so you are still wrong about that. shyt would have died quickly if it had stayed on that rappers delight wave.

na

Funk left the mainstream after being watered down,rnb got softer and glossy and became less black do you see a pattern?. These artforms get big,are forced to try to cater to non blacks and they are bushed by new black genres that cater to black people. it took Hiphop as the new black genre to brring funk and rnb and soul back.

hiphop brought back roots funk of the james brown variety. There was soul/funk/boogie etc classics...on the radio at the time time hiphop was rising up

Sounds like you are saying black people fukk with house heavy in 3 locations.But white people fukk with that EDM garbage everywhere,yet you are still trying to call house black music? It's not and never really was outside of the skin color of its creators.

because many styles of music in the USA of afram origin are heavily rooted in specific regions. For example, blues is the most important music to ever come out of the USA and the blackest genre of them all but it's mainly only played by aframs from the gulf coast and chicago. Now, it's largely played by white people from the rock/folk-americana/roots music world,



doesn't mean the music is no longer "black" because it's regional and now has a bigger white, instead of a black, audience

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

Was there a trend that we went to after that?



Like blacks people created it, it took up shop in Europe and grew and evolved into what it is now.


What caused us to be like “we done with that”?

They doing the same thing with hip hop. They ready saying nikka in they music