Why did Cali have 2pac back more than Dre's even tho Dre was from Compton?

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If he was direct and straight to the point why he didnt go after the real shooters at Quad studios ?

We're talking about the general perception of the two, as portrayed in the media and how they behaved in public.

Why did he leave the shooters? I don't have an answer, but my guess is he knew that the shyt went far deeper than some crews beefin'. He lost his life because someone considered him a threat.
 

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He went at them after Suge gave him courage

He went after bad boy and biggie and then after other artists that had nothing to do with it lol...
He went after everybody BUT the culprits..and he knew who they were.

Dont get me wrong i liked some of his work but i always chuckle when people talk about this "persona" that was clearly for public consumption...
 

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He went after bad boy and biggie and then after other artists that had nothing to do with it lol...
He went after everybody BUT the culprits..and he knew who they were.

Dont get me wrong i liked some of his work but i always chuckle when people talk about this "persona" that was clearly for public consumption...

He went after Jimmy Henchman, Tut and Haitian Jack

nikka just waited til Suge gave him courage tho

"I heard he was light skinned, stocky with a Haitian accent
Jewelery, fast cars and he's known for flashing (What's his name???)
Listen while I take you back (nikka SAY HIS NAME!) and lace this rap
A real live tale about a snitch named Haitian Jack
Knew he was workin for the feds, same crime, different trials
nikka, picture what he said, and did I mention
Promised a payback, Jimmy Henchman, in due time
I know you bytch nikkas is listenin, The World Is Mine
Set me up, wet me up, nikkas stuck me up
Heard the guns bust but you tricks never shut me up

Touch one of mine on everything I own
I'll destroy everything you touch, play the game nikka
All out warfare, eye for eye
Last words to a bytch nikka, "WHY YOU LIE?!?"
Now you gotta watch your back, now watch your front
Here we come, gunshots to Tut, now you stuck
fukk the rap game, nikka this M-O-B
So believe me we enemies, I go against all odds
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We're talking about the general perception of the two, as portrayed in the media and how they behaved in public.

Why did he leave the shooters? I don't have an answer, but my guess is he knew that the shyt went far deeper than some crews beefin'. He lost his life because someone considered him a threat.

Nobody considered him a threat lol
 

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Nobody considered him a threat lol

Then why was he shot in 1994 in the first place? When he was not involved in any beef yet? And why shoot a "studio gangsta" in the first place, if he's "just a rap artist"? For a couple of petty jewels?
 

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I think we know why he didnt which speaks to an earlier post of mine,dont call one of em a studio g and not both...

Let me just destroy your primitive logic, you obviously operate on a lower frequency of thought so I'm willing to help you out

Know? If you were presenting me with an argument I would instantly lose all confidence in your standards for what you "know" . . maybe he felt more hurt by a friend's betrayal and that was something he wanted to deal with first. Maybe he didn't see a benefit to making the street issues public, rather sensationalize the beef between people who were actually relevant on a national stage. This is most evident by the fact that he left the real issue off 'All Eyez on Me' which is considered a "Celebration of life" while fully-addressing the issue on the more serious themed Makaveli album - maybe he didn't know the name of the shooter but he knew where the shots came from. Maybe he was too far away from NY and busy working full-time in the studio and on film sets? He had better things to go . . you know, it's never good to assume but when speculating it's always best to assume the most obvious answer is the correct one

Maybe you'll live your whole life never having the ability to see a situation (that you weren't directly involved in) impartially

I mean . . those men were only sent to rob him (as "discipline"), he almost got killed that day because . . he didn't freeze up like most would in a similar situation, he resisted and the first thing he went for was his gun (like he did less than a year prior when he drew down on two people in Atlanta harassing a black motorist) . . maybe it's likely in a similar situation you would of frozen up. Maybe the residents of California collectively felt in similar situations Dr. Dre wouldn't of pulled over his car to object to two armed off-duty cops harassing somebody. Maybe they feel if Dre had entered a similar situation where he had guns drawn on him at point blank range his first reaction wouldn't of been to grab his gun . . essentially making a robbery into a life or death situation

. . but it's okay, keep speculating on another person's life, maybe you would've handled it better


fukkin' clown
 

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He went after bad boy and biggie and then after other artists that had nothing to do with it lol...
He went after everybody BUT the culprits..and he knew who they were.

Dont get me wrong i liked some of his work but i always chuckle when people talk about this "persona" that was clearly for public consumption...
Bad Boy was being extorted by the nikkas that got Pac at Quad. And Dexter Isaac (one of the shooters) said he had a big feeling Puff knew and was involved of the shooting.
 

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He went after Jimmy Henchman, Tut and Haitian Jack

nikka just waited til Suge gave him courage tho

"I heard he was light skinned, stocky with a Haitian accent
Jewelery, fast cars and he's known for flashing (What's his name???)
Listen while I take you back (nikka SAY HIS NAME!) and lace this rap
A real live tale about a snitch named Haitian Jack
Knew he was workin for the feds, same crime, different trials
nikka, picture what he said, and did I mention
Promised a payback, Jimmy Henchman, in due time
I know you bytch nikkas is listenin, The World Is Mine
Set me up, wet me up, nikkas stuck me up
Heard the guns bust but you tricks never shut me up

Touch one of mine on everything I own
I'll destroy everything you touch, play the game nikka
All out warfare, eye for eye
Last words to a bytch nikka, "WHY YOU LIE?!?"
Now you gotta watch your back, now watch your front
Here we come, gunshots to Tut, now you stuck
fukk the rap game, nikka this M-O-B
So believe me we enemies, I go against all odds
"
"You said don't go to war unless I got my money behind me
Aight, I got my money right here, now I want war"
 

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these kind of threads happen when you grow up with posters of shirtless rappers on your wall :sas2:
 
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