Why didn't Taker succeed as the top guy?
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Playaz Eyez
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Undertaker was always the best 1-B guy, and there's no shame in that. For the majority of the time, his gimmick didn't allow him to be THE man, but he didn't have to be either. He did play a part in a lot of guys who were the lead guys though, or guys that were getting major spotlight in general, and he was the perfect half to a good whole...HBK, Angle, Bret, Rock, Austin, Mankind, Kane, Edge, Sid, Nash, HHH, Batista, Orton, JBL...Taker did a lot of good for every one of them, and I think they'd tell you the same.
HipHopStan
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If you put demographics up, I'm almost positive that Cena would trump Taker in almost everything (particularly in notoriety and merchandise sales). He never was this huge draw, even during the Attitude era. He's more of an attraction or supporting character than the top guy. This isn't a detriment to Taker in the slightest. I'm just saying he's never been the top guy.
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WWE didn't market him as the top guy, simple as that.
They market him as more of a lowkey mystic figure that is a threat to anyone lurking in the shadows type of guy.
They market him as more of a lowkey mystic figure that is a threat to anyone lurking in the shadows type of guy.
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The Taker character was original and dope but it simply wasn't suited to be the face of the company. That doesn't take away from his greatness the same way someone like Phillip Seymour Hoffman killing it in supporting roles doesn't make him any less of an actor.
Contrary to what a lot of wannabe Dave Meltzer wrestling fans will tell you, drawing power/marketability isn't the end all be all determining factor for how great a wrestler is or what they accomplished in their career.
Contrary to what a lot of wannabe Dave Meltzer wrestling fans will tell you, drawing power/marketability isn't the end all be all determining factor for how great a wrestler is or what they accomplished in their career.
BodeineBrazy
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The Taker character was original and dope but it simply wasn't suited to be the face of the company. That doesn't take away from his greatness the same way someone like Phillip Seymour Hoffman killing it in supporting roles doesn't make him any less of an actor.
Contrary to what a lot of wannabe Dave Meltzer wrestling fans will tell you, drawing power/marketability isn't the end all be all determining factor for how great a wrestler is or what they accomplished in their career.
Because nobody goes to the circuit to see one thing.
As a kid I went to msg, to see Undertaker, Yokozuna, Bret, Shawn, etc.
I wasn't concerned with a draw and all that. People pay to see the whole Show. I can never understand the logic of one man "drawing" shyt makes no sense whatsoever.
Macho Man, Ultimate Warrior, Hogan all were collectively responsible for WWF's success. Obviously Hogan is the biggest.
Austin was the biggest, but Rock was just as big a focal point. One man simply cannot draw.
My favorite of all time but I always thought that character was supposed to be a heel.
threattonature
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Taker is basically the modern day equivalent to Andre. A sideshow act that was booked to always look strong unless facing crazy odds. Always around to be a threat to champion or to an up and comer. Since he was booked so strong it really means something to either secure a win or be competitive against them.
For all the talk of Taker making the gimmick, I'd say the booking helped make the gimmick just as much. If Taker was losing every other weak or booked to look weak for any prolonged stretch that gimmick would've been dead. But he came out the box beating Hogan and booked to be invincible.
As far as Taker being the main focus of mania, again that was booking since he hadn't lost in so many year. I think any great would've been just as much of a draw having the same streak.
Taker is definitely great, I'm in the middle of watching Raws and up to the 97 feud with Taker and how sick their two PPV matches were and how dangerous Taker was booked as. Taker held up is end of the bargain but his booking definitely played a factor.
For all the talk of Taker making the gimmick, I'd say the booking helped make the gimmick just as much. If Taker was losing every other weak or booked to look weak for any prolonged stretch that gimmick would've been dead. But he came out the box beating Hogan and booked to be invincible.
As far as Taker being the main focus of mania, again that was booking since he hadn't lost in so many year. I think any great would've been just as much of a draw having the same streak.
Taker is definitely great, I'm in the middle of watching Raws and up to the 97 feud with Taker and how sick their two PPV matches were and how dangerous Taker was booked as. Taker held up is end of the bargain but his booking definitely played a factor.
TAKER THE GOAT
Silkk
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This is absolutely 100% False
HipHopStan
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If you ask the average non-wrestling fan who The Undertaker is then you might get a "
" response back. If you ask the average non-wrestling fan who John Cena is then you might get a "
Oh yeah the wrestler. I liked him in Trainwreck."
Silkk
Can't Change My Damn Avi :beli:
Absolutely Not. This is 100% false, the Undertaker is a pop culture legend. Cena is notIf you ask the average non-wrestling fan who The Undertaker is then you might get a "
Malcolm Joseph
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Highly doubt that - Taker was a vital part of the wrestling world as it infiltrated mainstream media. I'd say that depends on the age of the person your asking at least.If you ask the average non-wrestling fan who The Undertaker is then you might get a "
Without any joking, my mom knows who Taker is simply from watching a show or two during the Attitude era and remembering how different his entrance was. No way to really prove this shyt, but I'd say most of your adults will be able to identify Taker as a wrestler and Most younger adults, teens and kids could give you Cena and Taker.
When he appeared on Jimmy Fallon, the crowd went nuts.
