Why didn't Taker succeed as the top guy?

Wacky D

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And that's why I said 'at least shoot high and say Sid'... Skyscraper!!

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they were all in that team.

why i gotta shoot high all a sudden? cuz taker got the wwe machine and a nice gimmick behind him afterwards?:whistle:
 

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they were all in that team.

why i gotta shoot high all a sudden? cuz taker got the wwe machine and a nice gimmick behind him afterwards?:whistle:

You just wanna be the contrary guy, Wacky :russ: I know your style by now, it rarely ever varies.

No, you gotta shoot high because the only reason Spivey was more over than Taker was cause he was already established as 'the other guy' in the Skyscrapers, and then Mark came in (unknown at the time) to sub for Sid. So, about three months in 1990. At least talk about how Sid was over as fukk with or without either one of 'em. How you get props for being more known than a MF nobody had seen yet? :pachaha:
 

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Breh, how do you think WWE would have performed the last 10 years without him?

To be fair, maybe if they didn't have Cena, they would've been forced to tell better stories and push better people, instead of trying to protect him.:yeshrug:

Maybe it was his height? As silly as it sounds, look back at other "faces of the company", Hogan, Luger, Austin, Rock, Cena, Reigns; they are all around 6-2/6-3. A 6-10 guy is out of place :yeshrug:

Hogan was marketed as 6'8" in his prime

Rock is 6'5"

Roman's 6'5 too

undertaker is no jay-z

taker is busta rhymes.

all the way.





youve danced around the topic so much that we're now wandering around AWA '83.

Stop it.

Taker is

Scarface_-_The_Untouchable.jpg


Universally beloved, respected, and acclaimed, but never the top guy in HIp-HOp

:ehh:Plus, obsessed with death and dark shyt
 

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Scarface_-_The_Untouchable.jpg


Universally beloved, respected, and acclaimed, but never the top guy in HIp-HOp

:ehh:Plus, obsessed with death and dark shyt



alot of people really dont care about scarface tho.
especially if they missed out on the early '90s.

so hey, you want use the scarface comparison? be my guest.
 
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alot of people really dont care about scarface tho.
especially if they missed out on the early '90s.

so hey, you want use the scarface comparison? be my guest.

You're high.

Virtually every great rapper of the past 25 years gives props to Scarface, from Jay, 2pac, hell DMX said he was his favorite MC, Kanye, etc. . .

Scarface is hovering in a considerable amount of Hip-Hop heads' top 10, just like Taker.
 

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You're high.

Virtually every great rapper of the past 25 years gives props to Scarface, from Jay, 2pac, hell DMX said he was his favorite MC, Kanye, etc. . .

Scarface is hovering in a considerable amount of Hip-Hop heads' top 10, just like Taker.
This is a pretty spot-on analogy. Most of Taker's contemporaries hold him in the highest esteem. From Jim Ross/Mcmahon to Michaels/Austin call him the greatest performer in WWE history.
 

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Taker a legend, but they had dudes that fit better as the top guy throughout his career. Not great on promos (fam be rambling and never had any fiyah in his voice work) and macabre character is much too outlandish for anybody to get behind or relate to. But that character was way too over for him to abandon it.

Dude did what he was supposed to do though, probably one of the top 5-10 careers of this whole wrestling shyt when it's all said and done. Held the locker room down forever too supposedly, kinda like the dean of students of the WWE
 

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You're high.

Virtually every great rapper of the past 25 years gives props to Scarface, from Jay, 2pac, hell DMX said he was his favorite MC, Kanye, etc. . .

Scarface is hovering in a considerable amount of Hip-Hop heads' top 10, just like Taker.


if youre talking about props from contemporaries, then sure.

scarface is not no universal top 10 rapper.

undertaker has no business anywhere near a top 10. you have to be completely stuck on the wwf to even bring his name into the discussion.
 

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I didn't read this whole thread, but I see where @Wacky D is coming from. Taker is a legend to me, but he's an extremely successful B+ player (nothing wrong with that), never was on Austin's, Rock's, or even Foley's and HHH's level as a main eventer. The WWE machine hypes him up because he's been "loyal" for so long (according to Nash and Hall, he was in talks with WCW during the MNW). He's respected and rocked with you regardless of your status as a wrestler (BSK being nothing but jobbers). The Busta Rhymes analogy is on-point. Cartoony, gimmicky, never was a GOAT and shouldn't be in anyone's top 10, but a legend nonetheless.
 
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