Why do black girls get shytted on, in here?

[SouthernBelle]

@KenyaDoll



Hmmmm I still find this to be a little bit unsettling even though you did qualify it properly... you can still properly qualify something and make a horrendous generalization. I can say a lot of black men are criminal ignorant thugs ... not all but a lot, and it would still be a terribly inaccurate statement due to the implications of the way you qualified it. And furthermore you talked about you "knowing a lot of them"... i usually agree with you on everything but do you not think that you are in that statement doing exactly what chris b or the other trolls do with black women?

Hell freaking no it is not the same. I stand by my statement that a lot (I didn't say most, I didn't say the majority) of black men are not living up to their potential (which is also a big different from saying that ain't ish which what Chris would say). Calling black men ignorant thugs is an inflammatory statement that I would not agree with; however, you would not be lying is you said a lot of black men have gone to jail. Your a lot and my a lot may be different, but don't act like I said most or even the majority with my original statement.

Also, the other statement about "knowing a lot" is based on a question that someone asked me about the type of black men that I knew. Spinoza specifically asked:

Out of all the black men you know how many realistically want to be a rapper or athlete? I don't think the problem is that bad.....plus a lot of those people who want to be rappers wouldn't be doing shyt otherwise.

Was I not suppose to answer the question about who I knew by describing who I knew? The quote you just made and the answer to Spinoza's question are TWO different statements and can not and will not be combined. Again, the statement about who I know was based a questions that someone asked me about my experience and I answered it based on my experience.

ETA: In addition, I even differentiated between my hometown and another state I lived in.

 

[BedRoomI'z]

They can't handle a strong, opinionated black woman so they have to hate on us and try to bring us down

Typical dog negros

That's why I only mess with my white men, they know how to treat a black lady.

smh at this lame ass attempt at an alias

 

[marcuz]

Like I said in that thread, I am not talking about numbers, I am talking about behaviors. TO ME, a spade is a spade regardless of gender. Your hypocritical ass can only see a spade if it is a woman. Marcuz YOUR ARE A HYPOCRITE. At least I am consistent with my opinions on certain behaviors (whether a man or woman is doing it).

you want to bring up #'s when its likes/groans on LSA, but ignore them when it comes to overall percentages.

 

[SouthernBelle]

I aint coming at you any type of way, calm your ass down.

Im not questioning your posts in that thread, if i wanted to discuss your posts I would have quoted them. Back to the discussion, considering the fact that gators post is filled with nothing but stereotypes and anecdotal references attempting to justify his generalisations, why dap it?

Lets say chris b made a thread title and opening post doing nothing but generalizing black women negatively and trying to use his experience to justify generalising black women, you'd be in there calling him out something serious and you certainly wouldn't dap him for it, yet you daped gators ridiculously stupid post which consisted of nothing but generalizations against black men, again, why is that?

I would tell him not to generalize or I would make my own non generalizing posts. I would never dap Chris B. anyway because everything that he would have to say about black women would be inflammatory. Gator or whoever's post was not inflammatory in my opinion. If you didn't like his post, you should speak out on it, but my stance was very clear in that thread.

I am going to start analyzing your daps and see what I can come up with.

 

[SouthernBelle]

you want to bring up #'s when its likes/groans on LSA, but ignore them when it comes to overall percentages.

Those are two different things. I tried to have a discussion about actions with you and you tried to excuse it because of numbers. I acknowledged that some black women felt that way but you can't acknowledge that some black men are self-haters

 

[Typical Coli Female]

smh at this lame ass attempt at an alias

Hey girl I'm trying to get my body right with the help of these two healthy brothas over here. http://www.the-coli.com/3351713-post37.html

I'm looking at your avatar and I think you could use some help with your weight too so let's get get sexy together, girl

 

[Kilgore Trout]

@havoc00 sitting back like

Black people are the only ones who discuss their issues in public.

 

[sanityovar8ted]

*backs up out of thread*

 

[BedRoomI'z]

Hey girl I'm trying to get my body right with the help of these two healthy brothas over here. http://www.the-coli.com/3351713-post37.html

I'm looking at your avatar and I think you could use some help with your weight too so let's get get sexy together, girl

 

[marcuz]

Those are two different things. I tried to have a discussion about actions with you and you tried to excuse it because of numbers. I acknowledged that some black women felt that way but you can't acknowledge that some black men are self-haters

i can easily acknowledge some black men deal with self hatred. especially considering they're being raised by the same self hating mothers. i just dont equate waves to black women and perms.

 

[Broke Wave]

Hell freaking no it is not the same. I stand by my statement that a lot (I didn't say most, I didn't say the majority) of black men are not living up to their potential (which is also a big different from saying that ain't ish which what Chris would say). Calling black men ignorant thugs is an inflammatory statement that I would not agree with; however, you would not be lying is you said a lot of black men have gone to jail. Your a lot and my a lot may be different, but don't act like I said most or even the majority with my original statement.

Also, the other statement about "knowing a lot" is based on a question that someone asked me about the type of black men that I knew. Spinoza specifically asked:



Was I not suppose to answer the question about who I knew by describing who I knew? The quote you just made and the answer to Spinoza's question are TWO different statements and can not and will not be combined. Again, the statement about who I know was based a questions that someone asked me about my experience and I answered it based on my experience.

ETA: In addition, I even differentiated between my hometown and another state I lived in.

Hold on now though... lets look closely at what you said.

You said that a lot of black men aren't living up to their dreams due to unrealistic expectations... and then later in your statement brought up the tired stereotype of being a basketball player or rapper.

This troubles me because you used the stereotype of ball-player / entertainer to try and isolate this sociological phenomena to black men, as if every other social group does not have people who aspire to these things... and since African-Americans are the poorest social group, why wouldn't they aspire to the professions which are the easiest and make the most money? Wouldn't this be more endemic of American culture rather than African American culture? Saying "Not everyone can be a ball player or rapper" is to me very vindictive and personally cheapens what was an interesting perspective.

If you are (and I am also) going to call people out for using unscientific stereotypes and being totally baseless, lets both try and avoid using stereotypes like that.

 

[Mountain]

I would tell him not to generalize or I would make my own non generalizing posts. I would never dap Chris B. anyway because everything that he would have to say about black women would be inflammatory. Gator or whoever's post was not inflammatory in my opinion. If you didn't like his post, you should speak out on it, but my stance was very clear in that thread.

I am going to start analyzing your daps and see what I can come up with.

I did speak up about it in that thread, I was one of the first to call the ts out on his hypocrisy.

My contention isnt about what you find inflammatory or your supposed stance in writing, my contention is with the fact that he made negative generalization against black men and you dapd it, but if anyone else, chris b, gator, whoever, made a similar post generalising black women you wouldn't have dapd it, in fact you'd probably go at the person who made the post as you typically do. You obviously seem to administer a double standard when it comes to criticism of black men and women.

Also, by all means go run an analysis of my daps, if you have time check my comment too. I make comments/give daps generally criticizing black men as much as I do black women, if not more, that's the difference between us.

 

[SouthernBelle]

Hold on now though... lets look closely at what you said.

You said that a lot of black men aren't living up to their dreams due to unrealistic expectations... and then later in your statement brought up the tired stereotype of being a basketball player or rapper.

This troubles me because you used the stereotype of ball-player / entertainer to try and isolate this sociological phenomena to black men, as if every other social group does not have people who aspire to these things... and since African-Americans are the poorest social group, why wouldn't they aspire to the professions which are the easiest and make the most money? Wouldn't this be more endemic of American culture rather than African American culture? Saying "Not everyone can be a ball player or rapper" is to me very vindictive and personally cheapens what was an interesting perspective.

If you are (and I am also) going to call people out for using unscientific stereotypes and being totally baseless, lets both try and avoid using stereotypes like that.

I said "a lot" are not living up to their "potential" because of "unrealistic dreams without a fall back". People can still live up to their potential even if their first dream does not come through. That is not the same as Chris B saying all black women ain't shyt. Saying someone isn't living up to their potential is not inflammatory, it is not dogging out the black men I referenced, and it actually shows that I think they have potential to be realized (unlike the race trolls on this board).

I used basketball and rapper as examples because (1) that was the context of the original post (2) those were the examples mentioned by quite a few people in the thread before I EVER even used those examples (I didn't even mention rapping or basketball in my first post about potential) and (3) imo (maybe not yours) they are good examples of statistically unrealistic dreams (because very few people get to realize them). I even found and posted in that thread a study that supported the basketball example because it revealed how many of these guys go to college for basketball and do not end up in the league or with a college degree (which makes that a legitimate example for that group especially because my post was not talking about all, most, or the majority of black men).

I do appreciate you respectfully disagreeing though.

 

[SouthernBelle]

I did speak up about it in that thread, I was one of the first to call the ts out on his hypocrisy.

My contention isnt about what you find inflammatory or your supposed stance in writing, my contention is with the fact that he made negative generalization against black men and you dapd it, but if anyone else, chris b, gator, whoever, made a similar post generalising black women you wouldn't have dapd it, in fact you'd probably go at the person who made the post as you typically do. You obviously seem to administer a double standard when it comes to criticism of black men and women.

Also, by all means go run an analysis of my daps, if you have time check my comment too. I make comments/give daps generally criticizing black men as much as I do black women, if not more, that's the difference between us.

I have dapped post criticizing black women (there was even a recent thread that I am sure I can find). I going to go all the way back to see if you EVER dapping a post that had a generalization. If you did you are a big ass hypocrite huh. Again, you can dap something without agreeing with every word. I said what I meant in that thread and I didn't not generalize so stop trying to call me out. I will not dap inflammatory post and most of the post made about black women on the board are inflammatory.

 

[SouthernBelle]

i can easily acknowledge some black men deal with self hatred. especially considering they're being raised by the same self hating mothers. i just dont equate waves to black women and perms.

Show me where I equated wave to perm you stupid motherfukker. Stop saying that shyt because I quoted myself in this thread. If you can't have an honest conversation then don't quote me you dumbass.

I equated perms/texturizers to perms texturizers.