Why does Mugabe get alot of love from some black people?

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Black people don't fukking import from Europe, you dumbie @Yup . Everything Europe exports is luxury nowadays (i.e. Cars, suits, etc). You'd think the European economy would be stagnant if people actually bought what they export? Everything European is expensive and Africans can't afford them. You always talk as though you know things but really you don't.

Africa depends on China and the USA. If you believe blacks can't build for ourselves and that we must depend on the white man like a child, then say so, and stop with your disingenuous simpering.
 

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First humble yourself. Second. I ask questions. Don't get uncomfortable when they are not inline with your point. Third I would have to ask. What are the population statics of Zimbabwe before they started kicking cacs out? Then I would ask if that even remotely reflects that of Zimbabwe. Be more specific because we're talking about a segment of the economy. Agriculture. We would have capacity for 100% of the population of Americas previous and then only need 14%. That could in time become an outrageous surplus.
There is nothing to humble myself about. I am not the ones that claims that after kicking whites out i can suddenly whip to shape a whole population to use systems that were created and maintained by foreigners.
 

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Cacs dont have a monopoly on farm knowledge but if they had used them effectively they could have made the transition a lot easier. So there was less struggle in the beginning.

It doesnt matter anymore because whats done is done and the nation will eventually flourish

You cant say ok heres all your land, and alot of the people you're giving land to dont know how to farm. If the government isnt going to provide teachers and training for that knowledge then they should have just used the cacs more effectively.

Do you want to go onto a new job learning everything from scratch or would you rather shadow the man you're going to replace and improve on what hes doing.
So you saying that Mugabe kicked cacs out with no plans to educate the new farmers?
 

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So you saying that Mugabe kicked cacs out with no plans to educate the new farmers?

Mugabe kicked out the cacs, gave the land to his people and then left them to their own ends. They have since been working to farm but have yet to reach pre-reform levels. That will take time but the eventual outcome--black autonomy and sovereignty--is worth the wait.
 

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Mugabe kicked out the cacs, gave the land to his people and then left them to their own ends. They have since been working to farm but have yet to reach pre-reform levels. That will take time but the eventual outcome--black autonomy and sovereignty--is worth the wait.
You got any links to some raw data? I'm trying to understand this farming Mugabe situation.
 

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Breh it's a lil more complicated than that.
"At the time of independence in 1980, over 40% of the country's farming land was contained within 5,000 white farms. It was claimed that these farms provided 40% of the country's GDP and up to 60% of its foreign earnings".

"Over 3000 white soldiers who assisted in the BSAC takeover of the country were given land grants of 1,200 hectares (3,000 acres) or more, and black people living on the land became tenants. Later, Land Apportionment and Tenure Acts reserved extensive low-rainfall areas for black-only tribal-trust lands and high rainfall areas for white ownership, which gave rise to cases of black people being excluded from their own land"--From wikipedia
White people in Zimbabwe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The black people were basically relegated to the manual labor aspect of farming, not the agricultural, entrepreneurial, or even basic supply chain side of it. The white people owned and profited from the farms and blacks did the actual labor but didn't necessarily have the knowledge or tools to run the machine themselves. Of course this was intentional on the part of the colonizers.
IMO you can't really go 0-100 in a system like that by expelling all the whites w/o dealing with the steep learning curve that comes with it. Smart thing would have been to do a gradual transition process and phase out the colonizers at every part of the chain but I doubt the whites would go for that. All the sanctions and intentionally fukking up of Zimbabwe's economy didn't help either.
Pretty much agree with this.

I don't get the bytching about the sanctions though, you can't kick muthafukkas off the land then ask 'em for money. If its fukk 'em, it's fukk 'em....not fukk you but help a breh out.

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