Why does our society shame absent parents?

[Jhoon]

Think OP is just trolling and attacking the ridiculousness of postmodernism, but nobody else caught it.

I didn’t interpret it that way. I read it as an idiot who just took sociology 101 and dropped it.

 

[ignorethis]

I didn’t interpret it that way. I read it as an idiot who just took sociology 101 and dropped it.

Sounds like an obvious troll, but if he was dead serious, it's a valid argument if you subscribe to the postmodern ideologies that are being pushed hard by modern academia.

 

[Prynce]

No really it's how you think. You seem to take issue with providing value to people around you which is funny because you probably don't apply that same attitude to your work or school. Idk what world you live in where showing up and doing nothing is good enough but I personally believe in contribution and improving the lives of people around and they doing the same for you.

And no I don't have a problem judging people by utility because I am useful person and have no problem doing for people I care about. I literally don't even spend time with people unless they can contribute to my life and wellbeing. If you're only skill is just "being there" I wouldn't associate with you. Anything else is just a waste of time. Why spend your time with people who are stagnant and want you to sit in stagnation with them.

I provide for myself. I don't look at people for what they can do for me.

Growth is a individual journey not something that comes about because i pay a person for sex and affection.

Also most things that people Truly need can not be bought or can have a monetary value placed on them

I have no problem contributing but my contributions shouldn't be quantified. I'm not obligated to financially provide because in 2019 women can work for themselves.

 

[Prynce]

I didn’t interpret it that way. I read it as an idiot who just took sociology 101 and dropped it.

How am I an idiot?

 

[Prynce]

Societies can’t progress if parents leave their kids to fend for themselves

Investing in your kids isn’t a guarantee that your family tree or society will progress but abandoning them is almost a guarantee that they won’t. There are several cities and communities in America filled with chaos because of misguided neglected youth. Imagine how much worse things would be if that was happening on a grand scale?

Human beings are social creatures and we all need each other in one way or the other so there are certain moral obligations we should uphold for the benefit of society as a whole and by extension ourselves. One of those moral obligations is to clean your own backyard aka look after humans you create and make sure they have the intangibles to contribute to society or at the very least not be a menace to others

Cultures do those very things in vary degrees and they function fine.

I feel like y'all brehs have a mental image of black fatherlessness and using that as a moral tint to all your thinking.
The BC is the way it is by design not because of fatherlessness

 

[Prynce]

For starters, our society doesn't shame shyt. If they are, it damn sure ain't working.

Taking care of your offspring is a biological instinct. You don't see animals abandoning their kids.

Sure there are cultures where the men are more distant but they are still expected to provide for the child and teach them certain things once they are of age. Not sure I have ever heard of a culture where parents just say "fukk it" and leave their kids.

All animals don't care for their kids. Some animals kill they kids if they don't dip a few days after birth.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that family roles aren't the same accross cultures

 

[Prynce]

Dude just isn’t a responsible person and that’s fine but don’t pretend it’s something abnormal with society and not his lack of maturity over all.

How am I irresponsible and immature?

Give me a valid reason why I am immature?

Also this thread just a question I wouldn't do it

 

[Prynce]

"Universal truth" is irrelevant.

It is absolutely shameful to bring a child into this society and abandon it. In this society, that child will be forced to compete for survival against other children who have parents to rear them.

There existing some society somewhere in which offspring are left to fend for themselves is irrelevant unless you plan on bringing that child to live in that society.

Children in this country 100 years ago were forced to go to work in cotton mills at 8 years old. A lot of times they died and parents said oh well i have 10 other kids

Y'all really don't see how y'all proving my point. Morality and being a parent isn't some set in stone shyt. In this very country it was normal for parents to neglect and abuse their kids. In this country 100 years ago kids had to struggle to just to survive with little help from parents.

Y'all know so much that y'all don't know anything

1800's Child Labor in America: Causes and Facts for kids ***

 

[Prynce]

Name em

A Society without Fathers or Husbands

 

[KneeGrow.]

Children are a responsibility. Society tends to grown upon people that don't take care of their responsibilities, children or otherwise.

 

[Caribbean lover]

-social constructs- lol i knew it was going to be babble the moment i read that. you as a man or women had sex and reproduced its your responsibility to raise those kids. I dont care how other cultures do it, dont want to be a father use protection , monitor cycles or abortion. plenty of options but its your responsibility . If op meant shaming people who dont have kids and never want to be a parent then yea they shouldn't be shamed but that doesn't seem like what you meant.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Children in this country 100 years ago were forced to go to work in cotton mills at 8 years old. A lot of times they died and parents said oh well i have 10 other kids

Y'all really don't see how y'all proving my point. Morality and being a parent isn't some set in stone shyt. In this very country it was normal for parents to neglect and abuse their kids. In this country 100 years ago kids had to struggle to just to survive with little help from parents.

Y'all know so much that y'all don't know anything

1800's Child Labor in America: Causes and Facts for kids ***

This post has literally nothing to do with the point I made.

 

[Savvir]

In other cultures it is considered normal for the dad to not be involved in a child's upbringing at all and in some cultures it's vice versa

what cultures?

 

[Elle Seven]

"Universal truth" is irrelevant.

It is absolutely shameful to bring a child into this society and abandon it. In this society, that child will be forced to compete for survival against other children who have parents to rear them.

There existing some society somewhere in which offspring are left to fend for themselves is irrelevant unless you plan on bringing that child to live in that society.

Allow me to ask you to clarify what you said because somethinf about it is not clear to.

As I understand your response, you are asserting it is irrelevant that in other societies it may be considered acceptable to abandon one's children; this fact would only be relevant if I were planning to raise my children in one of said societies.

Is that correct?

 

[Black Hans]

Quit being a degenerate, OP. And why isn't this thread in the bushes?