Why does our society shame absent parents?

[Eastside Get The Money]

Dead beats can get gunned up and clapped quick.

Y’all might not rock with this one but any man or woman who doesn’t support the seed they made should get a 20 year bid off rip

 

[Matriarchy Refugee]

Smart dumbness abound in this thread

 

[13473]

To answer your question. He would not be a dead beat at all. His people don't raise their own kids. How can he be a deadbeat when everyone does it that way?

the question was not "is he a deadbeat"

 

[Neuromancer]

We're a social animal. I appreciate the question though.

 

[Prynce]

the question was not "is he a deadbeat"

Then Idk what you're asking

The entire point is that being a parent is a concept that is determined by the morals of society.

You do realize everything you believe is based on you being an american woman? If you had a different world view your morals would be completely different.

 

[Elle Seven]

Being a good mother and father are social constructs defined by western culture. There is no natural/instinctive formula on how to construct a family or who should be present in said family,

In other cultures it is considered normal for the dad to not be involved in a child's upbringing at all and in some cultures it's vice versa

So why do we shame and belittle people who don't want to be a parents in the states?

Because social stigma aside they're not doing anything that's wrong

Just curious - does this line of thinking also cover gender roles as well? For example, would you say there is nothing which instinctively or naturally predisposes men to be aggressive and protective and women to be nurturing and supportive, in and of themselves, first, and towards their offspring and others, secondly?

Or would you say those qualities are what we come to accept thru the same conditioning under which we come to think of family roles?

 

[tater]

Being a good mother and father are social constructs defined by western culture. There is no natural/instinctive formula on how to construct a family or who should be present in said family,

In other cultures it is considered normal for the dad to not be involved in a child's upbringing at all and in some cultures it's vice versa

So why do we shame and belittle people who don't want to be a parents in the states?

Because social stigma aside they're not doing anything that's wrong

Not like this breh.

 

[Elle Seven]

Mosuo - Wikipedia

Most matriarchal culture's are like this breh

Thanks for sharing this. Never heard is this culture before.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

A lot of nikkas feel that way lmao

Hell 78% of the coli would say the same

Lol nah I remember that thread. Nobody was riding with your desire to have no responsibility in the relationship. I see the same attitude extends into parenthood as well.

You have a theme in your threads. It's basically:

"Why can't I get the benefits from *insert situation* while I provide no benefits to others?"

 

[13473]

Then Idk what you're asking

If Dan from Alaska is not raising his son, lil Billy, because that's what the Mosuo do, then is Dan also adhering to the rest of the Mosuo culture such as raising his sister's children?

my point is Dan can't live like an american, be independent or the head of household, find a girl he likes, bang her, get her pregnant then when it's time for him to help out suddenly "i object. this doesn't align with Mosuo culture " when literally nothing else he did aligned with Musuo culture . clearly Dan is just doing what he wants to do and using other cultures as an excuse

 

[010101]

you hate yourself if you can abandon your child

your child is a literal part of you

i love myself too much to consider being a deadbeat

*

 

[I'm Blackman]

Bruh you be on some different shyt.

That's all I got on this one. Some shyt is ridiculous to even discuss.

 

[Prynce]

Just curious - does this line of thinking also cover gender roles as well? For example, would you say there is nothing which instinctively or naturally predisposes men to be aggressive and protective and women to be nurturing and supportive, in and of themselves, first, and towards their offspring and others, secondly?

Or would you say those qualities are what we come to accept thru the same conditioning under which we come to think of family roles?

Hmm that's a good question

I don't believe women are naturally nurturing or supportive. Thats some human shyt we have because were social creatures. We are predisposed to like each other.

But however I do think men are more aggressive because of testosterone. Women have testosterone too but men just have a lot more.

Also people don't like to admit it but most people would save themselves before anybody else including before they kids.

I think Western society does promote those gender roles tho heavily. Since childhood your drilled with those roles from kids movies to religion

 

[Prynce]

you hate yourself if you can abandon your child

your child is a literal part of you

i love myself too much to consider being a deadbeat

*

idk if you hate yourself but your kid is apart of you.

 

[010101]

idk if you hate yourself but your kid is apart of you.

you could happily abandon apart of yourself¿*