Why does our society shame absent parents?

[Prynce]

Lol nah I remember that thread. Nobody was riding with your desire to have no responsibility in the relationship. I see the same attitude extends into parenthood as well.

You have a theme in your threads. It's basically:

"Why can't I get the benefits from *insert situation* while I provide no benefits to others?"

Not really

I just ask questions about things that don't make sense to me. I do not feel the social contract of dating is fair in 2019. If it was 1959 I wouldn't trip.

I don't like the roles society tries to force me to accept. And if I dont accept said roles then I'm defective. It's just something that rubs me the wrong way because it causes entitlement in other people.

You don't think it's fukked up your value as a person is your utility and not the fact your a person?

 

[Prynce]

you could happily abandon apart of yourself¿*

Personally I wouldn't because of my morality but if I was born in some other country then i guess ye

 

[Elle Seven]

A culture that practices cannibalism or child sacrifice, would you not consider that backwards yes or no, no juelzing please.

I have no dog in this fight, but I'd like to play devil's advocate. In our society, we take animals from their natural state, inject them with hormones and mass produce them for meat...an staunchly unnatural practice some would deem this to be .

We also have a daycare system where it is considered normal for you to entrust the care of your child to someone you don't know (and by "don't know", I mean this is not a family member or family friend). One might argue this is strange and unnatural.

In our culture, foe many, it is acceptable to hit children as a form of "disciplining" them and making them into respectful adults. We see threads on here a lot where many ascribe the solution to anything unsavory in a child being an add whupping...or some form of physical violence. In another culture, however, this might be totally blasphemous - hitting a child under any circumstances - because a child deserves just as much respect as an adult does.

Only point I'm trying to make is, depending on who is doing the looking, you can find things in every culture which seem unnatural or backward as compared to your own.

What is the universal truth?

 

[010101]

Personally I wouldn't because of my morality but if I was born in some other country then i guess ye

ha that bs in any country b*

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Not really

I just ask questions about things that don't make sense to me. I do not feel the social contract of dating is fair in 2019. If it was 1959 I wouldn't trip.

I don't like the roles society tries to force me to accept. And if I dont accept said roles then I'm defective. It's just something that rubs me the wrong way because it causes entitlement in other people.

You don't think it's fukked up your value as a person is your utility and not the fact your a person?

No really it's how you think. You seem to take issue with providing value to people around you which is funny because you probably don't apply that same attitude to your work or school. Idk what world you live in where showing up and doing nothing is good enough but I personally believe in contribution and improving the lives of people around and they doing the same for you.

And no I don't have a problem judging people by utility because I am useful person and have no problem doing for people I care about. I literally don't even spend time with people unless they can contribute to my life and wellbeing. If you're only skill is just "being there" I wouldn't associate with you. Anything else is just a waste of time. Why spend your time with people who are stagnant and want you to sit in stagnation with them.

 

[Dr. Acula]

But ton's of human cultures have norms where there are no fathers involved

But it's all dependent on the individual culture that child is raised in and even then you're saying this I'm sure ignorant of the social issues that may be a result of neglectful parents being prevelant in these other societies. America, the best option is to have involved parents. There is plenty of research I'm too lazy to get into showing the negatives of not being involved.

 

[African Peasant]

90% of the time, when a thread start by "why" on TheColi, it's always some stupid shyt.

This thread is an illustration of this sad reality.

Mosuo - Wikipedia

Most matriarchal culture's are like this breh

NO. The Mosuo are an anomaly, even among matriarchal societies.

Mosuo are basically the go to example for nonsense like this.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

This is possibly the whitest shyt I’ve read on the internet in the past 2 months

 

[Dad]

Personally I wouldn't because of my morality but if I was born in some other country then i guess ye

Your morality is contingent on your birthplace?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

But ton's of human cultures have norms where there are no fathers involved

Name em

 

[FTBS]

For starters, our society doesn't shame shyt. If they are, it damn sure ain't working.

Taking care of your offspring is a biological instinct. You don't see animals abandoning their kids.

Sure there are cultures where the men are more distant but they are still expected to provide for the child and teach them certain things once they are of age. Not sure I have ever heard of a culture where parents just say "fukk it" and leave their kids.

 

[Rawtid]

Lol nah I remember that thread. Nobody was riding with your desire to have no responsibility in the relationship. I see the same attitude extends into parenthood as well.

You have a theme in your threads. It's basically:

"Why can't I get the benefits from *insert situation* while I provide no benefits to others?"

Dude just isn’t a responsible person and that’s fine but don’t pretend it’s something abnormal with society and not his lack of maturity over all.

 

[Dwolf]

Social construct

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

I have no dog in this fight, but I'd like to play devil's advocate. In our society, we take animals from their natural state, inject them with hormones and mass produce them for meat...an staunchly unnatural practice some would deem this to be .

We also have a daycare system where it is considered normal for you to entrust the care of your child to someone you don't know (and by "don't know", I mean this is not a family member or family friend). One might argue this is strange and unnatural.

In our culture, foe many, it is acceptable to hit children as a form of "disciplining" them and making them into respectful adults. We see threads on here a lot where many ascribe the solution to anything unsavory in a child being an add whupping...or some form of physical violence. In another culture, however, this might be totally blasphemous - hitting a child under any circumstances - because a child deserves just as much respect as an adult does.

Only point I'm trying to make is, depending on who is doing the looking, you can find things in every culture which seem unnatural or backward as compared to your own.

What is the universal truth?

"Universal truth" is irrelevant.

It is absolutely shameful to bring a child into this society and abandon it. In this society, that child will be forced to compete for survival against other children who have parents to rear them.

There existing some society somewhere in which offspring are left to fend for themselves is irrelevant unless you plan on bringing that child to live in that society.

 

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

Societies can’t progress if parents leave their kids to fend for themselves

Investing in your kids isn’t a guarantee that your family tree or society will progress but abandoning them is almost a guarantee that they won’t. There are several cities and communities in America filled with chaos because of misguided neglected youth. Imagine how much worse things would be if that was happening on a grand scale?

Human beings are social creatures and we all need each other in one way or the other so there are certain moral obligations we should uphold for the benefit of society as a whole and by extension ourselves. One of those moral obligations is to clean your own backyard aka look after humans you create and make sure they have the intangibles to contribute to society or at the very least not be a menace to others