why does will smith get an eternal pass when he has no rap cred?

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True, know old school music like the back of my hand, but to paraphrase what Marlo told Old Face Andre, I ain't much for sentimental value. Just because a song was fun when I was a kid doesn't mean the guy who made it isn't a bit of a crossover clown who uses ghostwriters and has made some of the most embarrassing singles of all time. Will Smith is fukking wack, b. Glad he got his paper on the Hollywood hustle, but dude is trash as a rapper.

Ain't no such thing as a hip hop pass for life. You making complete bullshyt family friendly doo doo rap, you wack to me, period. It's no different from some corny ass G Love and Special Sauce shyt.

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On some real shyt you just don't like Will Smith everybody in this thread gave you a million reasons why we respect Will, and you still ranting, about his cookie cutter songs......give it up.
 

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LOL this dude is seriously furious that people don't hate Will Smith as much as he does. It's not like anybody ever even brings him into convos as a great mc. Most of the post Fresh Prince of Bel-Air stuff has been wack, so? Nobody puts him on a level high enough to care about that. He made some catchy joints early on, repped hip-hop culture hard while breaking into Hollywood and paving the way for rappers as actors, and was just a cool dude that did him. How can he NOT get a lifetime pass?
 

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we might as well act like slavery and racism never existed.

oh yeah, i forgot.

this gen thinks those did not and do not exist, from revision as well.


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Yep.


I agree with you 100% on the shytiness of his later music

but I think the responses in this thread tell you that what people enjoy/remember about his music is the sort of material he put out before the shiny suit gum-pop stuff. Not that he gets an "eternal pass", but when they remember back on the impact he made on the genre they'll remember the older stuff, not what his music career turned into.

Noone cares that he "sold out".


I'm not even going to take the general sentiment of The Coli as an indication of whether Will Smith is corny and wack, because this is the same board on which I've seen cats celebrating Hammer as a respectable legend and ja fukking rule as a dope, underrated, grimy rapper. It lends credence to the notion of the crackbaby generation.

However, your last line is kind of my point. People are ready to drop Nas down 10 pegs or die defending his honor when someone suggests he used a ghostwriter, but Will Smith uses ghostwriters openly and makes lame ass pop songs that make Ice Ice Baby seem edgy but "no one cares." Which sort of suggests that he's so fukking wack on the mic that no one cares. It's cool he's a Hollywood icon, I congratulate the homie. But that has nothing to do with him as an M.C. at all.

Also, he share both his girls with Gina. :leon:

LOL this dude is seriously furious that people don't hate Will Smith as much as he does.

What is it with the whole unimaginative meme of internet fury. Like, you nikkas be sitting in front of the monitor, reading posts with the immediate instinct of "oh shyt, this dude furious, b!" Nah, I make threads blending a little bit of fact with a little bit of insult and a little bit of humor. So kiss my fukking ass and suck Will's dikk.


It's not like anybody ever even brings him into convos as a great mc.

Except they do, and I've already explained 3 times that it's the reason I made the thread. a bunch of posters recently were riding hard on Will Smith being a better rapper than Eminem. I don't even own an Eminem album, don't fukk with the little homie like that, but Will smith couldn't outrap Diamond D let alone Eminem. nikka is trash.

Why are you "furious" that I'm pointing that out?

will smith is a homo rapper, his wife fukks women and is in love with a dead rapper, his daughter is an ugly treasure troll who needs the mic slapped the fukk outta he hands, he's a c00n for making bagger vance, and his music is pure garbage.

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summertime yo...shyt is the definition of a classic hip hop record

will never fronted like he was hard, stayed in his lane and made the music he wanted to





:manny: shyt is hard by no means...something you can put on a bbq and kick it to (no pun)
 
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Yep.





I'm not even going to take the general sentiment of The Coli as an indication of whether Will Smith is corny and wack, because this is the same board on which I've seen cats celebrating Hammer as a respectable legend and ja fukking rule as a dope, underrated, grimy rapper. It lends credence to the notion of the crackbaby generation.

However, your last line is kind of my point. People are ready to drop Nas down 10 pegs or die defending his honor when someone suggests he used a ghostwriter, but Will Smith uses ghostwriters openly and makes lame ass pop songs that make Ice Ice Baby seem edgy but "no one cares." Which sort of suggests that he's so fukking wack on the mic that no one cares. It's cool he's a Hollywood icon, I congratulate the homie. But that has nothing to do with him as an M.C. at all.

Also, he share both his girls with Gina. :leon:



What is it with the whole unimaginative meme of internet fury. Like, you nikkas be sitting in front of the monitor, reading posts with the immediate instinct of "oh shyt, this dude furious, b!" Nah, I make threads blending a little bit of fact with a little bit of insult and a little bit of humor. So kiss my fukking ass and suck Will's dikk.




Except they do, and I've already explained 3 times that it's the reason I made the thread. a bunch of posters recently were riding hard on Will Smith being a better rapper than Eminem. I don't even own an Eminem album, don't fukk with the little homie like that, but Will smith couldn't outrap Diamond D let alone Eminem. nikka is trash.

Why are you "furious" that I'm pointing that out?

will smith is a homo rapper, his wife fukks women and is in love with a dead rapper, his daughter is an ugly treasure troll who needs the mic slapped the fukk outta he hands, he's a c00n for making bagger vance, and his music is pure garbage.

:manny:

Well I havent seen anybody say something like that personally, but yeah that's ridiculous talk
 

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Breh the only reason nikkas said will> Eminem is because em dissed will for no reason. And I'm sorry but black folks gonna ride with will over Eminem. I really don't think anyone is saying technically will is better than em.

I feel like the OP made this thread just to shyt on will cause you don't like him.

I feel like everyone in this thread knows what will is and we explained it numerous times. A rapper who had some decent songs some corny ones and blew up on acting tip, we respect his grind and how he did it.

That's it.

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he dropped ish that i could relate to like 'parents just dont understand', 'girls aint nothin but trouble' as a youngin. that aint saying he had the best music. call him corny or whatever but he's also real.

if there's any rapper out there that you should look up to as a role model, then its the fresh prince. managed to be successful while being himself. i think the general hip hop population would agree that him and jazzy jeff opened doors for hip hop
 

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yes you are young and on top of it ignorant as fukk.

the same cultural ignorance sugar hill to will smith/jive/imposter jazzy jeff.

have used to dupe and fukk up the world up using rap, and the culture of hiphop, as a catalyst and scapegoat.

you are the byproduct welled in ignorance that comes from that.



art barr

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This is the beginning of me ignoring your dumbass. You're always quick to call someone who doesn't believe what you believe ignorant. nikka, you are NOT the gatekeeper/historian/king-koopa of rap.

You really just sound salty as fukk right now.
 

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I think what the OP is trying to get everyone to acknowledge is that society made someone most of us enjoyed as an actor and role model into a dope rapper because he was a rapper first.
The guy had a few crossover hits and couple hip hop gems, but ultimately no one else could do what he did musically and receive the accolades he has a rapper without becoming the A-List movie star after.
People are unable to seperate his accomplishments, instead choosing to prop up his rap career with his other achievements. And I'm not listening to Will Smith records front to back, but i'll never pretend he wasn't a big part of my childhood and entertained me with both music, movies and tv.
 

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Will Smith is a legit pioneer even if you think he's shyt. His popularity helped pave the way for Hip Hop and Rap to be accepted in the mainstream and won (with jazzy jeff) the first rap grammy.
 
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