haaannPlatinum thread in the making. Plenty of nice guys on this board want to know why they're losing. I used to be a nice guy but I turned heel because the bytches love it. Continue on.
That explains all of those self appointed nice guys from pua hate and bbforum. They all say they're nice but they want one thing and secretly hate women, yet don't expect that stuff to seep through their interactions when they talk to a woman they like.It's because Nice Guys want the p*ssy just like every other man, but they think they can lie an con their way into some action, and girls subconsciously can sense that
Nice guys would always lose. But they are kicking themselves that they can't be forthright and honest about their feelings toward a women
Being blunt and straightforward is the purest form of masculinity
Every guy who "likes" you will do so because of what is on the exterior. You think dudes approach chicks because they assume she probably has a great personality?
How is a dude that blathers on and on without letting you get a word in edgewise and invades your personal space considered "nice"?Every guy who "likes" you will do so because of what is on the exterior. You think dudes approach chicks because they assume she probably has a great personality?
A "nice guy" is a dude who listens to you, who genuinely does like you for more than your body, who supports you and pretty much does everything most women say that want a man to do for them. However, he's either too weak or too physically unappealing for you to "look at him like that".

I hear this phrase all the time; however, before self-reflecting on the realm of possibilities which may explain this conundrum, I conducted my own little experiment. I went out with a so-called 'nice' guy. My family and friends kept telling me that I was extremely picky and here was a 'nice' guy that was interested in me but I was turning him down for no reason apparently. So against my better judgement, I decided to give this 'nice' guy a chance.
We went out for dinner and I listened to him talk exuberantly about his own interests. I could tell he was very much attracted to me. Taking every opportunity to put his body in close proximity with mine. And he would stare at me like a hungry mad man on death row, about to eat his last supper. I felt uncomfortable but decided to give him a chance. Although I usually enjoy talking, that evening I sat silently and remained in observation mode. He kept talking and talking, and talking. I looked at the time and it appeared to have been moving every millennia; boredom quickly began to seep in as I struggled to keep any interest of mine afloat.
You're probably reading this and thinking that I was being a stuck up [beep]. Perhaps you're right but hear me out before you make your judgement. You see, I get turned off by men who appear to like me even when I sit there like a mute -- with nothing to offer but my beauty. There's no intellectual discussion, he hasn't gotten to know me beyond my exterior layer. A date is where you peel back layers instead of admiring the outer layer. It's the sweet soft part that's all within us; the part anyone rarely gets to see, which should be the main course of discussion!
That's the problem, you see. Liking the exterior before you've even touched upon what's on the inside. A so-called 'nice' guy gets excited over the packaging and his enthusiasm is revolting. He'll tell you he loves you without even tasting you. He'll call you every day and declare his love before even knowing your ingredients. He'll like you albeit you've said very few words to him.
His love for you is an illusion. And the sad part is, he doesn't even know it.
For that reason, I don't go for the 'nice' guy per se. I go for the guy I find mentally stimulating, not the one who tells me I mean the world to him, when he doesn't even know what my inner world contains.
/End rant.
So basically a nice guy is really just having uglynikkaproblemsHow is a dude that blathers on and on without letting you get a word in edgewise and invades your personal space considered "nice"?Every guy who "likes" you will do so because of what is on the exterior. You think dudes approach chicks because they assume she probably has a great personality?
A "nice guy" is a dude who listens to you, who genuinely does like you for more than your body, who supports you and pretty much does everything most women say that want a man to do for them. However, he's either too weak or too physically unappealing for you to "look at him like that".
WRONG! I've already spoken about how personality can overshadow looks for me in previous threads.
I understand initially attraction creates the spark, but when a man is only interested in that spark, it automatically becomes a huge turn off for me![]()
So basically a nice guy is really just having uglynikkaproblems

A nice guy to me is someone who is chivalrous and caring but doesn't fall in love with what his eyes see before gaining a closer inspection. Someone who falls in love quickly is a fool to me. I appreciate compliments now and again... but it's a turn off when a man loves you before he has even gotten to know you. The stare of lust without pure love is stomach churning to me. The look in his eyes tells me that to him I'm a sexual object; how can I be more when he doesn't know me? That's where the problem lies.
The problem in this scenario and i can say in a lot of cases is you were expecting him to do this or that, something special, magical etc. When u should have been trying to get to know him as well. If u felt this way then u should have communicated this with ur date, talk about ur interests, lead the conversation to what u want to know and see if he follow ur lead.
But of course u sat there quiet and let him babble on because im sure u wasn't paying for the date so u wasn't losing nothing but time and here u are writing a book when u could have just explained all this to ur date. U went to the date already turned off and feeling one way and didn't let him know so i blame u for this one. The same way some women have the patience to stick with a guy that beat them up, u should have the same patience with a so called "nice" guy.
To close i don't buy ur story, its just another excuse, every guy not gun be like me that got experience, a good mouth piece etc but im not that special and i cant be every woman's pick, u got to give these guys a chance and not do it out of pity and conclude that's the reason girls don't date nice guys. U need to go all in focus on the good things, help each other with ya'll flaws and u should see an increase in the quality of life u lead.
I get the personality piece and I am not denying it. However I have known chicks to blow a dude off because of his looks. Dudes will generally be in the friendzone bc of being weak though.
Nice guys aren't just interested in the spark, they genuinely care. The dudes who are only interested in the spark know how to front and charm their way into them drawls before you realize it. They aren't nice guys.