Why have cops become so bad at solving murders?

[jshani]

where they ever really good, or was the murderers just sloppy

 

[Paper Boi]

Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops

abcnews.go.com

welcome to 20 years ago my friend

 

[Sterling Archer]

because it's harder to plant evidence

Bingo. It was much easier to plant evidence to get convictions in the past. Now with cameras jamming them up, people live streaming, location pings on multiple devices etc. Its much harder for them to “secure charges”.

The numbers didn’t drop, they just can’t fabricate them as easily anymore. They are what they have always been.

The bigger question should’ve always been who in their right mind thought these high school graduates were solving 80% of murder cases in the past?

 

[George's Dilemma]

The brightest people in society for the most part don't join the front lines of law enforcement. Often enough the most volatile, cynical, and apathetic become cops. I read somwhere that its estimated that 40% of law enforcement have been accused of domestic violence. How true that is, I don't know but if true it wouldn't surprise me.

Besides that criminals have gotten smarter.

 

[get these nets]

The real reason at least where I am is the staffing. They haven't had the correct amount of detectives for at least 5 years in Cleveland. They'll pull detectives off other assignments and put them in the homicide division and then once they actually have to do the work they're overwhelmed with the backlog of cases or have PTSD from the constant death.

Spoiler

There was a case a few years ago where a 13-14 year old mentally impaired girl was kidnapped at a bus stop less than 1/4 mile from a police station. An officer found her body in an abandoned home while they were doing searches in the area. She had been raped and was naked folded up in the corner of a closet and was stabbed through the eye with a screwdriver. That officer went on leave for months and I think they might've even retired after that.

They don't make enough for people to want to deal with that on a regular basis.

Yeah, I think the chart and trend corresponds with the crack era and the expansion of the drug trade in the country. Law Enforcement resources seemed to have been devoted to preventing violence, locking up users and arresting those in the drug trafficking food chain since then.

Interesting that people avoid the obvious.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Who knows. DNA evidence will get you jammed up though. Lots of cold cases getting resolved that way. Also detectives work murders not uniformed officers. In most cases. It seems like most of the funding goes to general uniformed police divisions.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

The real reason at least where I am is the staffing. They haven't had the correct amount of detectives for at least 5 years in Cleveland. They'll pull detectives off other assignments and put them in the homicide division and then once they actually have to do the work they're overwhelmed with the backlog of cases or have PTSD from the constant death.

Spoiler

There was a case a few years ago where a 13-14 year old mentally impaired girl was kidnapped at a bus stop less than 1/4 mile from a police station. An officer found her body in an abandoned home while they were doing searches in the area. She had been raped and was naked folded up in the corner of a closet and was stabbed through the eye with a screwdriver. That officer went on leave for months and I think they might've even retired after that.

They don't make enough for people to want to deal with that on a regular basis.

Agreed.

Plus, cops don't build relationships with the community anymore. They don't walk around talking to the grandma's sitting on the porch or the blue collar guy fixing his cars in the driveway.

Cops have better military grade equipment but their soft skills have eroded. They can't solve crimes unless the criminals gift wrap it for em

 

[Mars]

People don't want to give information (Snitch)

 

[Wildin]

It definitely makes a difference. If you know you gotta see the same people when you go home it hit different

Exactly. When kids go missing, or vandalism, drugs and shyt happen in their housing communities they

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

The real reason at least where I am is the staffing. They haven't had the correct amount of detectives for at least 5 years in Cleveland. They'll pull detectives off other assignments and put them in the homicide division and then once they actually have to do the work they're overwhelmed with the backlog of cases or have PTSD from the constant death.

Spoiler

There was a case a few years ago where a 13-14 year old mentally impaired girl was kidnapped at a bus stop less than 1/4 mile from a police station. An officer found her body in an abandoned home while they were doing searches in the area. She had been raped and was naked folded up in the corner of a closet and was stabbed through the eye with a screwdriver. That officer went on leave for months and I think they might've even retired after that.

They don't make enough for people to want to deal with that on a regular basis.

So where the fukk is all of the budget going? At least in NYC, their fukking budget keeps getting higher.

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

people have finally learned to stfu from years of watching first 48.

Motive

Body

Weapon

3 things needed to sure up a murder conviction.


it's like in engineering the fire triangle

ignition source

fuel

oxidizing agent



without one of the three there's no fire....

 

[Oatmeal]

Yeah, I think the chart and trend corresponds with the crack era and the expansion of the drug trade in the country. Law Enforcement resources seemed to have been devoted to preventing violence, locking up users and arresting those in the drug trafficking food chain since then.

Interesting that people avoid the obvious.

Nah, this doesn't happen prosecutors seem to always let violent offenders go with slap on the wrist probation or short sentences for violent crime and those same folks turn around and commit murders afterwards. If you look in any city with high murders the people that commit them usually have priors that already let you know that person ain't about to be reformed.

Agreed.

Plus, cops don't build relationships with the community anymore. They don't walk around talking to the grandma's sitting on the porch or the blue collar guy fixing his cars in the driveway.

Cops have better military grade equipment but their soft skills have eroded. They can't solve crimes unless the criminals gift wrap it for em

We got a new mayor that implemented this, I've seen foot patrols in different areas and it's weird af to see the police actually walking the neighborhoods and not searching for someone. But they only do it for an hour right now.

So where the fukk is all of the budget going? At least in NYC, their fukking budget keeps getting higher.

They spend on equipment, they've been trying to crack down on dirtbikes and ATV in the street so they spent tons of money on police Enduro bikes to catch dirtbike riders meanwhile people still get shot EVERYDAY. The amount of resources they use on that stuff is actually ridiculous though, they use helicopters and all sorts of other expensive resources for that mess. The budget should be used to pay them more so they could actually do some hiring, and not get the dudes that wash-out from the outer ring suburbs and rural Ohio, that's how you end up with

 

[Afrodroid]

Because they commit most of them.

Spot on

 

[Hey_zeus]

SCOTUS determined they have no obligation to.

 

[BrothaZay]

Cops are not that smart. Bottom line.

This is just the homicide stats. The clearance rates for other crimes are even lower