Why in the black community we sometimes struggle with having healthy conversations about obesity?

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

nikka shut the fukk up...... fukk your falsehoods nikka.... since when is all of Houston a fukking hood.... Y’all nikkas play so damn dumb on here just to win a discussion.... technically, there is a sprouts, Whole Foods, Fresh Market, Greenwise, Trader Joe’s in Bham, but they ain’t near poor nikkas..... just like they won’t be near a lower income area in Houston either cause it’s bad fukking business

Bad business... that’s the term right there. That’s what they overlook- you have the wealthiest black suburb in the nation, PG County and they even have to fight tooth and nail to get viable options in that area. And then when they do get business incentives - they still struggle to keep the business. So what do they think is happening in poorer neighborhoods.

 

[perfectblack999]

Some of y’all are really exposing yourselves here. I live in a food dessert right now. My wife and I make an upper middle class income but we’re basically in a transitioning hood.

We work in midtown Atlanta so on the way back home we can swing by groceries store that have healthy food options. We can afford gym memberships and stay pretty active. We don’t have kids so we have time.

my neighbors in the surrounding neighborhoods do not have this luxury. There’s either a liquor store, gas station, or fast food spot on every corner. If you’re working crazy hours, got kids, in a food desert, etc. you can easily end up obese.


Yes you can discipline yourself but that’s not how humans and habits work. It takes a decent amount of self control to go out of your way to be healthy. That’s an intense amount of meal prep for someone who doesn’t have that time.

 

[tremonthustler1]

If folks cared about their health though they'd make dire sacrifices. Do you sit there and be overly obese and hope the government builds more grocery stores or be more selective? What would you do? Even fast food sell grilled chicken and steamed vegetables.


And that's not even talking about how we don't exercise. Because we definitely don't exercise. No excuses for that, even if it's 30 minutes of running the neighborhood. Or buying some cheap dumbbells. shyt, it's black dudes cut up right now purely off bodyweight exercise

Coming for one of the biggest food deserts in the country, that shyt is real. It's hard to find fresh food and healthy alternatives and it's by design. It's not a surprise that you can find damn near every fast food option in the hood but the healthier stuff you gotta go out of your way to find. Poor people do, eat, dress and conduct themselves in ways attributed specifically to proximity. Many a time do people go to a fast food spot because it's the closest thing to their home. Your grandma might not necessarily want fast food but when the closest supermarket is a couple miles away and you ain't got time to take her, she might have to go across the street since the objective is just to fill her belly (and that's the larger point: you're just trying to eat. You don't have the time or energy to determine how. You're just trying to meet an objective and that's to not be hungry)

People don't value food the way they're supposed to. Someone told me food is just fuel for the body. There's food that's good for the body that people won't touch because they don't think it tastes good or you're a kid, it's yucky. The one time your parents try to give you good food, watch most kids just sit there and not eat. Same thing if you go to school and they try to give you something that ain't pizza. Parents get it wrong because they don't like cooking some shyt they otherwise wouldn't eat, even if it benefits their kids long term. Educating people on nutrition is like tryna put someone onto KRS-One in 2020. I love that there's more Planet Fitness gyms and Blinks popping up because it's necessary. Then it becomes an issue of discipline when it comes to working out and most people in general lack it.

Also, there's maybe 2 times in a day where you're not stressed in a low income environment: when you're watching TV and when you're eating. Sometimes the only enjoyment you'll get out of a typical day is when you get a chance to kick back, watch whatever show you watch and have a burger and a beer or whatever. Now, imagine if I replaced those 2 things with you watching something educational while eating some broccoli, sure it's good for you, but man you're gonna hate life a little bit more that day.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

There are Krogers everywhere in Houston, hoods included. I grew up DIRT POOR and Kroger, Safeway, Fiesta were all in my hood.

Stop with this victim talk. Keep waiting for the white man (that hates your black ass) to build your community a healthy and nutritious grocery store

Some really strange dudes post on this place...disagree w/me all day long but cmon now, i've seen Krogers in many a hood in my life.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

You too fukking slow and contrary just for the sake of being half a bytch to admit that y’all sanctimonious ass nikkas are dead ducking wrong.... it’s hard data going back to redlining during the Jim Crow era that helped create the lack of solid markets in poor black neighborhoods, but y’all don’t know shyt about your history to begin with or care about nikkas for that matter

fukk you. I've done extensive research on obesity and could school your dumb ass a thing or twelve on the subject. PLUS im in the medical field you fukking inbred numbskull.

Bow down to your intellectual superior and save the insults for your fat momma.

 

[I Really Mean It]

How can blacks be living in a food desert and be obese at the same time? This ain't making sense breh

Y'all make it seem like we live in North Korea. I've never even heard of food deserts buy I'mma do my research

fail to grasp the concept of food deserts, brehs. Let an understanding of calories escape you, brehs.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

fukk you. I've done extensive research on obesity and could school your dumb ass a thing or twelve on the subject. PLUS im in the medical field you fukking inbred numbskull.

Bow down to your intellectual superior and save the insults for your fat momma.

nikka shut the fukk up

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

fail to grasp the concept of food deserts, brehs. Let an understanding of calories escape you, brehs.

and the sad part is, these the nikkas that claim they got all the sense......... boy the internet has made it truly a time to be alive....

 

[goatmane]

For the first 11 years of my life we were dead broke but we still had access to veggies and healthy shyt. Stop lying to yall kids please and feed em right

"You ain't got time or energy" man please . That excuse come up yet again Can make time to get your kids right?

For the folks in those for desert areas, ok... but for those who NOT living in them. What's ur excuse

 

[goatmane]

Some of y’all are really exposing yourselves here. I live in a food dessert right now. My wife and I make an upper middle class income but we’re basically in a transitioning hood.

We work in midtown Atlanta so on the way back home we can swing by groceries store that have healthy food options. We can afford gym memberships and stay pretty active. We don’t have kids so we have time.

my neighbors in the surrounding neighborhoods do not have this luxury. There’s either a liquor store, gas station, or fast food spot on every corner. If you’re working crazy hours, got kids, in a food desert, etc. you can easily end up obese.


Yes you can discipline yourself but that’s not how humans and habits work. It takes a decent amount of self control to go out of your way to be healthy. That’s an intense amount of meal prep for someone who doesn’t have that time.

Distance to healthy grocery stores dont have a strong correlation to obesity as you would think

 

[Booker T Garvey]

No such thing as a "food desert" i don't give a damn which political figure coined the term and I don't care how many heart-tugging videos they make about it

if the grocery store that you frequent sells fruits, vegetables and water - there's no excuses. period.

I've never seen a grocery store that only sold junk food and flat out didn't carry items that people can actually cook with in there at all

 

[ThrobbingHood]

Food deserts are a real thing. I live in a place that has only two grocery stores on the Black side of town. However convenience stores and fast food joints are everywhere. Do not underestimate how deep racism goes. It permeates every part of our experience in this country, including the food we take in. Do some research, don’t base your opinion off of only your experience. The greatest trick of white supremacy is making us think it doesn’t exist.

Well said. It amazes me how people can look at a complex issue but somehow how come to a one dimensional conclusion:

"Fat people are just lazy. Black women don't want to exercise because of their hair. There aren't any wholefoods in the hood."

It's a multifaceted problem. You just have to start with the kind of places they open in certain neighbourhoods depending on the socioeconomic class of its inhabitants.

When you see fast food restaurants and liquor store galore. . you know you're in the hood. When you see a plethora of vegan and whole food shops then you know you're in the suburbs.

Throw in a lack of education, undiagnosed mental health issues, socially depraved families and you have a recipie for perpetual obesity.

And I say this as a man in shape.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Dude had a great point and y’all just proved it. Soon as the conversation started, nikkas ran in here to do everything BUT talk about it. As a race, American blacks are the fattest in world. The woooooorld.

I honestly could give two fukks about your happiness. Lose some god damn weight and get healthy. How you pro black and not pro black health?

And sorry. No it isn’t hard. Buy a fukking cheap ass jump rope. Walk everyday. Run. Stop eating red meat. Bake, not fry. Eat more fruits and veggies. Cut the fat. It’s not rocket science.

everyone doesn’t need to be on the safe levels of the BMI chart. But don’t give me “it’s hard” when you on your third plate at the buffet every Friday and eat like shyt the other days with zero exercise.

 

[Street Knowledge]

The lies people tell themselves is scary

My favorite is when people be like “but but Reggie Bush is 200 lbs and not fat, it’s how you carry your weight”

My dude the average guy who is 200 lbs is not 6 feet tall nor is he swole like Reggie

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

OP is a cry baby but he's right. People hate to talk about why they are fat. The crazy part is losing weight is simple math. You don't even need to starve yourself. Just cut out a few things or just bump yourself down to 2 meals a day would do wonders. It ain't that hard.