Why is Kanye getting a pass? Nas caught hell when he "sold out"

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Yeezy also gets a pass cause he is on the spotlight of Hollywood. He is messing with Kim K. He made Hov half way relevant again to the new yuppies. He Has the likes of Big Sean and 2 Chainz under him.

This too :ld:
 

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Kanye still makes good joints but his music isn't as soulful as it once was. The current Kanye has predictable content and more cheesy punchlines imo.

nas isn't judged like normal human rappers like kanye west are judged. lupe fiasco is the only other rapper who kinda sorta knows what thats like. they can't do what other rappers do because people view them differently, they expect hip hop excellence, either its undeniable greatness or its wack to them. kanye didn't come in the game a hip hop savior super lyricist, he came in a soulful cornball.

All of this

There's really fans that like both nas and lupe? I don't even know how those kind of fans work. That's weird to me. Lupe ain't even in my radar. I could give a fukk what lupe drops.:manny:

:damn:

Nas is my GOAT and Lupe is my favorite post-Kanye rapper
 
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kayne sold out but he ain't like me and sold 100 grams
see when i pull up on the block i be like heated yams
yall talking that sell out shyt but i ain't ever sell out ya car
i know the streets like the back of my palms yeah battle scars
 

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he sold out when "STRONGER" dropped


that shyt changed hip-hop in the worst way possible

This is the truth.

There's really fans that like both nas and lupe? I don't even know how those kind of fans work. That's weird to me. Lupe ain't even in my radar. I could give a fukk what lupe drops.:manny:

Man, you ain't never lied.
His work is nowhere near NaS illmatc era or status.
He tries to hard to be conscious.
 

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This thread, along with the other "Kanye has 'changed' and I don't like it" threads, is terrible.

:snoop:
 

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On the topic of "Kanye used to be humble" :stopitslime: Heeeellllll no. He was humble to y'all cause you were seein' him talk for about 45 seconds, and reading a lil' tiny-ass article about him. I remember the first time I read a full-length article on him, he was talkin' about "I feel like what I just said, y'all need to put that in bold print" and :laugh: Before College Dropout came out, he was talkin' bout "any magazine that doesn't give this album their best rating loses credibility". Nahhhh nikkas, Kanye didn't change, Y'ALL changed cause now it annoys y'all more than it did when he was sayin' the most arrogant shyt even back then. The nikka had an arm-length tattoo of songs he produced when he was in the "Izzo" video and nobody knew who the hell he was... you think somebody like that wouldn't become MORE of what he already was being?

Far as his subject matter- Kanye has made clear since the first album (for y'all that listened) that he was on that line between a Benz and a backpack. He was never some strictly underground-type nikka... he was kinda the gap between that and the more mainstream artists from the get-go. Who else's album in 2004 had Jay-Z, Freeway, Ludacris, Twista... AND Mos Def, Kweli, and Common at the same time? So all this shock that he's fukkin' with Ross and 2Chainz should be no surprise, any more than how he's also workin' with Q-Tip and Mos. That's been his M.O. since forever. How many mainstream artists in 2010-11 worked with Tip, Pete Rock, and The RZA?

All that "he changed" shyt is true in some aspects... but wrong in most aspects. He changed like any artist ready to stay ahead of the game should. I don't think it was ever Kanye's intent to be in one box, because there's not a point in his career where he ever did/said anything to suggest that.

This post should reappear on every page for all those who've never been paying attention.



I still never forgot the quote around the time CD dropped he was talking something to the effect of "you need to buy his album 2 or 3 times because your friends will steal it, that's how hot it is". :laugh:
 
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nas aint never sold out tho... nas always stayed in his lane and did things the way he wanted to do em


and smh @ kanye makin diss songs to nba players... lol lets see what would happen if he went at an accomplished rapper
 

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My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is very underrated album IMO. It's darker than the rest of Kanyes albums, but it's more of a reflection of where HE was during that time. The insecure backpacker is gone get over it. People hating on him because he's smashing the chick they been drooling over for the past 5 years. Hopefully he makes another album soon. In the words of Jay, "Want my old shyt, buy my old album."
 

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Hip-Hop used to have integrity and standards back in the day. That's the short answer. Sorry if its already been posted.
 

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How it change Hip Hop? explain deeper.

Stronger was the first rap record of the 00's to have that strong EDM vibe, down to the drums that really took off. The drums at the start are pure euro-dance music-ish. The synths throughout are also heavily EDM influenced.

Now Timbo did that first with the Justin album. But Justin's white and has a core of white fans. For it take off in hip-hop it needed a black artist with black fans to go that route. Kanye did it.

Believe it or not, Def Jam didn't think Stronger would work because they thought black people wouldn't like it. Think about it, the core of all Kanye's previous hits was from black artists making "black" music. Gold digger/Ray Charles, Slow Jamz/Vandross, All Falls Down/Lauryn Hill, even Jesus Walks had a black choir on it. Stronger at the core is white Frenchman making dance/pop music. Even Good Life at its core was a black man (apparently) trying to be white. Graduation changed hip-hop and was THE sell-out album of the 00's.


Kanye's smart though. Can't Tell Me Nothing got more play in the hood than any Kanye song previously. So there was balance. But Graduation was the sell out album and everybody seemed to like it.
 
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