Why isnt Martin considered a "new black" or "c00n" show?

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Are you slow?

The Martin TV show did not cater to nor was it geared towards white people. White people didn't even understand the jokes or most of the material. Are you that dense?

ARE YOU THAT DENSE ASS HAT

Fox's Thursday-night line-up, which drew millions of viewers away from NBC's "Must See TV" line-up.

That's FRIENDS, SEINFELD AND ER.

who do you think primarily watched those shows.

And what type of shyt does "White folks don't understand the jokes". Ya'll think white people are retarded or something? The jokes wasn't no hi brow shyt nikka, I was 13 and understood it.

LMAO yall acting like White people don't go watch black comedies.

 

[Black]

Lol...I hate to be cynical but damn.

I'm cynical as hell so I understand. lol

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

man, damn near every Black comedian after Martin imitated him in some way. You can even see it in Kevin Hart at times.

Breh Eddie Murphh Breh.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

You're just gonna keep posting this until it feels relevant?

shyt is relevant you dudes are just fukking retarded.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

shyt is relevant you dudes are just fukking retarded.

 

[jadillac]

Breh Eddie Murphh Breh.

2 totally different types.

Eddie Murphy wasn't Black comedy as much as Martin. But Eddie did open doors, so no shade.

 

[mrken12]

You've been here long enough to know that this thread has been made numerous times and has always ended in the same way.

 

[PortCityProphet]

Y'all keep acting like Martin is the pinnacle of black television achievement, and the "GOAT siticom" but Im surprised the show hasnt raised y'all ire given the coli militant standards, and yall collective ability to turn everything into degradation of the black race:

The central character is Martin, who is unserious, unfocused, unintelligent and lives so far off on the economic margins that he can only afford a modest apt in a low income area of detroit, which could be a housing project if you look at the building and those who live there hard enough.

Martin, of course, plays a host of characters who are all dumber than the next. One is a female named 'Sheneneh' (black male emasculation? gay agenda?), who seems to be written with the sole intent of maxing out on every bad black woman stereotype ever invented.

His two best friends are Cole and Tommy. The former is a barely functioning retard, and the latter is best known for not having a job.

Martin's girlfriend is Gina, who enjoyed the best written character on the show. She's extremely bright, and the only one thats clearly college educated. She's successful, not promiscuous, logical, the emotional and moral anchor in almost every situation, and always the voice of reason amongst a sea of idiots. And also not so coincidentally she was the lightest person on the show --- her skin so light in fact she was practically racially ambiguous.

Pam is Gina's best friend. Her character isnt too offensive, but she was clearly written to serve as Gina's inferior and chosen as Martin's foil for a reason. She gets by on her sex appeal and little else --- certainly not her integrity, which is always painted as being low to non-existent.

The rest of the show is filled out by a motley crew of aimless low lifes --- bruh man? hustle man? Stan, the station manager at WZUP????

I know its just a show designed for jokes, but logic like that hasnt stopped ya'll before. What gives?

ya'll try to look into stuff so hard you come off like an idiot. it's a comedy show the characters are there for comedic relief. you got a lot of stuff wrong too.
How is being the numer 1 DJ on WZUP make him unfocused and unsuccessful and unintelligent? that's damn successful to me. When has Martin ever shown being dumb on the show? You mean when he jumps to conclusions about what's going on leading him to get into some fiasco that he has to get himself out of? Sitcom 101.
Cole dumb sidekick for comedic purposes. typical dude low wage job lives with his mom.
Not knowing what Tommy did running gag but he was always dressed nice and well spoken.
Pam was educated as her and Gina worked together. She didn't use sex appeal she was always trying to find a man.
You sound like you never even watched Martin
2nd person I have had to neg today for disrespecting the GOAT.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

*waits for anotha enlightening thread on how Hollywood Shuffle was actually used as a propaganda piece to discourage aspiring black actors from entering da career field of actin . *

 

[Ronnie Lott]

ARE YOU THAT DENSE ASS HAT

Fox's Thursday-night line-up, which drew millions of viewers away from NBC's "Must See TV" line-up.

That's FRIENDS, SEINFELD AND ER.

who do you think primarily watched those shows.

And what type of shyt does "White folks don't understand the jokes". Ya'll think white people are retarded or something? The jokes wasn't no hi brow shyt nikka, I was 13 and understood it.

LMAO yall acting like White people don't go watch black comedies.

You really think white people understood all the jokes, characters, lingo, slang and hip hop references on that show?

Just because white folks watch black comedies it doesn't mean that they understand the material.

White folks are always a few steps slower in terms of fully understanding "our culture"

Do you really think that white people fully understood Jerome character and all the pimp shyt and blacksploitation references he was spittin?

Do you really think the average white person from middle America fully understood when Martin , cole and tommy were reciting lyrics from Bootsy Collins and shyt?

White folks are usually 5 steps behind. Why do you think white folks just recently caught on to "twerkin" and "the Harlem Shake" (that they completely fukked up and shamelessly remixed)

Why do you think that LL cool j wore a gatdam fubu hat in a gap commercial and then white folks were absolutely clueless.


Just admit that you are dense as fukk and have no idea what the hell you are talking about

 

[Doobie Doo]

Y'all keep acting like Martin is the pinnacle of black television achievement, and the "GOAT siticom" but Im surprised the show hasnt raised y'all ire given the coli militant standards, and yall collective ability to turn everything into degradation of the black race:

The central character is Martin, who is unserious, unfocused, unintelligent and lives so far off on the economic margins that he can only afford a modest apt in a low income area of detroit, which could be a housing project if you look at the building and those who live there hard enough.

Martin, of course, plays a host of characters who are all dumber than the next. One is a female named 'Sheneneh' (black male emasculation? gay agenda?), who seems to be written with the sole intent of maxing out on every bad black woman stereotype ever invented.

His two best friends are Cole and Tommy. The former is a barely functioning retard, and the latter is best known for not having a job.

Martin's girlfriend is Gina, who enjoyed the best written character on the show. She's extremely bright, and the only one thats clearly college educated. She's successful, not promiscuous, logical, the emotional and moral anchor in almost every situation, and always the voice of reason amongst a sea of idiots. And also not so coincidentally she was the lightest person on the show --- her skin so light in fact she was practically racially ambiguous.

Pam is Gina's best friend. Her character isnt too offensive, but she was clearly written to serve as Gina's inferior and chosen as Martin's foil for a reason. She gets by on her sex appeal and little else --- certainly not her integrity, which is always painted as being low to non-existent.

The rest of the show is filled out by a motley crew of aimless low lifes --- bruh man? hustle man? Stan, the station manager at WZUP????

I know its just a show designed for jokes, but logic like that hasnt stopped ya'll before. What gives?

I agree with you on all this shyt and I always said the same things about the show which is why I think it isn't on the same level as Cosby, Fresh Prince, Jeffersons, Sandford & Son which to me are the top tier black sitcoms but it is and was still funny as hell the first 3 seasons (I always said the show fell off the season after they got married). While Martin did cross the c00n line many times I still found the show funny and you also have to give leeway because Martin is a physical performer. A lot of his stand up involved physical movements, facial expressions and gestures so physical comedy has always been a part of his act. I don't think it's fair to watch at tv show centered around him that he worked on in front of and behind the camera and not expect to see that. Same with Marlon Wayans so I tend to get give a pass to both for the simple fact they make me laugh and it's their shtick. I'd feel different if it was Denzel or Michael B Jordan etc.

On the plus side it did show a strong black relationship between black man and woman, Everybody had jobs (Tommy did something), loyal friends, a sense of community cuz of the reoccuring characters like Bruh man, Roscoe etc, middle class environment. It wasn't the WORSE portrayal of black folks either.

 

[El Bombi]

 

[LegendZelda325]

OP good job on your well written analysis of this show. Its amazing how people here all of a sudden abandon all of their anti-white supremacy rhetoric and put it all on the back burner when it comes to defending this show or anything else they like. But the points you made were very valid and very true. I never was much a fan of the show. I was more of a Fresh Prince fan. But then again I was born in the early 90s, so maybe the show wasn't aimed at my demo.

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

This isn't about Martin...
In other words you're trying to take shots at nikkas who don't kiss ass and buck dance huh?:wonkadealwithit:

 

[Charlie Broadway]

I suppose one could argue there was/is c00nery on Martin.

That said am I the only one that read op's character descriptions with the face throughout most of it? If op is just trying to get a rise out of people then whatever. He's proven his point and won any debate before it began as most here are incapable of anything other than ad hominem responses when their hypocrisy is flipped on them. However if that's how op really sees the characters then one could argue...