Why isn't there a salary cap for college coaches?

[unit321]

Not sure how your post relates to mine. My point is that if college is all about the spirit of amateurism aka not getting paid then that should apply to everyone. If it's about having the best and compensating them accordingly regardless of age and enrollment status then that should apply to everyone.

Maybe they mean amateur athletes, not amateur coaches.
Really, if you had college student coaches, then you would have the worst possible games in football, baseball, basketball and hockey.
It would be like watching pick-up ball.

 

[Zach Lowe]

We aint that far along its powers that be that make the public frown on that.

Dont act like if all these players happen to end up in china that things wouldnt change in the us.

Is it me or do players that go to china get drafted lower than they would have. Compared to foreign born players entering the draft?

when you have an american go to china you look at him funny cuz u think why didn't he play D1, was he afraid he'd get exposed, etc.

with a foreigner you can't blame him for not playing college ball he's from a whole nother country and there are more significant cultural, academic and financial barriers at play

same way when an american university looks at grad school applicants from India and China etc., if they went to the best available schools and did good you don't question why they didn't go to MIT out of high school

 

[FTBS]

Maybe they mean amateur athletes, not amateur coaches.
Really, if you had college student coaches, then you would have the worst possible games in football, baseball, basketball and hockey.
It would be like watching pick-up ball.

So in other words for the labor force, the draw it's amateurism? For everyone else it professional and capitalism? Sound fair to me. Funny how all that education and spirit of amateurism talk goes right out the window when we get to talking about anyone other than the players .
So I guess you think that most college grads are the worst at their profession as most of their education came courtesy of a grad student teacher right?

 

[Walt]

Anyone who believes big time college sports is "amateur" or "scholastic" is a fukking militantly moronic.

Athletes want to be paid: "but they get a scholarship... it'll ruin the spirit of amateurism... if we pay football and basketball players it wouldn't be fair to golfers and swimmers and women's field hockey players!"

Meanwhile, if they wanted to keep the spirit of amateurism, they could play in a fukking field off the side of a random building on campus in stead of a $70 million stadium. Meanwhile the football coach gets paid 3 to 8 milly a year, and the golf/swim/field hockey coach makes 70 to 120 thousand dollars. It's amazing how quickly these exploitative scumbags switch from the rhetoric of socialism to the cold practice of capitalism and the public swallows this bullshyt hook, line, and sinker. Even got people regurgitating these evil talking points on messageboards. It's fukking disgusting.

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

when you have an american go to china you look at him funny cuz u think why didn't he play D1, was he afraid he'd get exposed, etc.

with a foreigner you can't blame him for not playing college ball he's from a whole nother country and there are more significant cultural, academic and financial barriers at play

same way when an american university looks at grad school applicants from India and China etc., if they went to the best available schools and did good you don't question why they didn't go to MIT out of high school

I hear all that and im sure you can explain away anything i say. But fact still remains the people who stand to gain the most set the rules, guidelines amd drive the narrative they want the public to think.

You dont think all these organizations (including media) are in bed together. If these guys all to to china the coachs aint getting millions for coaching d3 players.

They arent looking to be fair they are looking for that payday

 

[unit321]

So in other words for the labor force, the draw it's amateurism? For everyone else it professional and capitalism? Sound fair to me. Funny how all that education and spirit of amateurism talk goes right out the window when we get to talking about anyone other than the players .
So I guess you think that most college grads are the worst at their profession as most of their education came courtesy of a grad student teacher right?

Well, if all the college teams were coached by students, that could be doable. It would also decrease the cost in running a team. But, you would see a drastic decrease in the quality of play. It would be like watching the WNBA or Lingerie Football League.

 

[FTBS]

Well, if all the college teams were coached by students, that could be doable. It would also decrease the cost in running a team. But, you would see a drastic decrease in the quality of play. It would be like watching the WNBA or Lingerie Football League.

Why you keep ignoring my many references to the bolded breh?

So in other words for the labor force, the draw it's amateurism? For everyone else it professional and capitalism? Sound fair to me. Funny how all that education and spirit of amateurism talk goes right out the window when we get to talking about anyone other than the players .
So I guess you think that most college grads are the worst at their profession as most of their education came courtesy of a grad student teacher right?

Besides even if quality does drop isn't that a worthwhile sacrifice for amateurism and education ?

 

[unit321]

Why you keep ignoring my many references to the bolded breh?
Besides even if quality does drop isn't that a worthwhile sacrifice for amateurism and education ?

Well, the NCAA all started out as student athletes, not as student athletes and student coaches. College football sucks anyway. There's way too many teams and I don't care.
College basketball and ice hockey is more fun to watch, but it would be awful if they switched to amateur student coaches. I'd be like,

all the time on screwed up plays.

 

[FTBS]

Well, the NCAA all started out as student athletes, not as student athletes and student coaches. College football sucks anyway. There's way too many teams and I don't care.
College basketball and ice hockey is more fun to watch, but it would be awful if they switched to amateur student coaches. I'd be like,

all the time on screwed up plays.

So you have no response to that then? Okay I figured as much, I just wanted to make sure.

NCAA didn't start out with coaches making this kind of money or athletes being stars on this level either. Things change.

 

[Houston911]

Anyone who believes big time college sports is "amateur" or "scholastic" is a fukking militantly moronic.

Athletes want to be paid: "but they get a scholarship... it'll ruin the spirit of amateurism... if we pay football and basketball players it wouldn't be fair to golfers and swimmers and women's field hockey players!"

Meanwhile, if they wanted to keep the spirit of amateurism, they could play in a fukking field off the side of a random building on campus in stead of a $70 million stadium. Meanwhile the football coach gets paid 3 to 8 milly a year, and the golf/swim/field hockey coach makes 70 to 120 thousand dollars. It's amazing how quickly these exploitative scumbags switch from the rhetoric of socialism to the cold practice of capitalism and the public swallows this bullshyt hook, line, and sinker. Even got people regurgitating these evil talking points on messageboards. It's fukking disgusting.

If you believe college athletes shouldnt be paid the youre either stupid or naive

Womens college basketball coaches are out here making a mil a year

 

[Made Myself A Boss]

College Football is the closest thing to slavery in modern day America

#fact

 

[unit321]

So you have no response to that then? Okay I figured as much, I just wanted to make sure.

NCAA didn't start out with coaches making this kind of money or athletes being stars on this level either. Things change.

Coaches are important. I think people underestimate what they do. People think you can have the same core group of players win regardless of who the head coach is, but I say the coach makes the difference between winning a closely matched game against a good opposing team.

NCAA is all about student athletes. You brought in the idea of student coaches which is really a moot point. No one is going to give a student a scholarship for coaching. They just don't have the experience to do what an experienced head coach can do. If you want to change the landscape of college athletics, getting rid of professional coaches and hiring goofball students is one way to do it.

 

[FTBS]

Coaches are important. I think people underestimate what they do. People think you can have the same core group of players win regardless of who the head coach is, but I say the coach makes the difference between winning a closely matched game against a good opposing team.

NCAA is all about student athletes. You brought in the idea of student coaches which is really a moot point. No one is going to give a student a scholarship for coaching. They just don't have the experience to do what an experienced head coach can do. If you want to change the landscape of college athletics, getting rid of professional coaches and hiring goofball students is one way to do it.

People manage just fine with educations that come mostly courtesy of grad students .

You are missing my point though. This isn't about the quality of the game. This isn't about what universities want to do. This isn't about what coaches want. This is about fairness and consistency and how the NCAA is so corrupt and full of shyt. Yet it's so ingrained in our culture that you have people copping every plea in the book for it.

 

[The ADD]

On pure function coaches aren't governed by any one body in regards to their employment. It's all individual to the school and university system.

 

[Real Estate]

Competition with other leagues, especially basketball's international leagues + nba and all that.
All these leagues are competing for the same coaches.