Why Kobe Bryant was a greater scorer than LeBron James will ever be

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If Kobe's arsenal was so deep, why was his Finals scoring and shooting percentage so poor? :jbhmm:


Meanwhile, how does a one-trick pony like Lebron have literally the greatest Game 7 scoring in history, when the stakes are highest and they know exactly what he's going to do?

:sas1::sas2:



Watch Detroit Game 5 in 2006, Boston Game 7 in 2008, Orlando Game 1 in 2009, Boston Game 6 in 2012, San Antonio Game 7 in 2013, Golden State Games 2 and 3 in 2015, and Golden State Games 5 and 6 in 2016.

That's NINE different forty-point games* against stellar defensive teams with the highest stakes at play, and it's like a completely different Lebron in each one. He's hitting jumpers and drives against Detroit, going to the hole over and over against Boston in 2008 and Orlando 2009 but demolishing Boston from the high post in 2012, hitting long jumpers and threes against San Antonio, controlling the ball and the game from the top of the key against Golden State in 2015 but them mixing absolutely everything together against them (including 7 threes) in 2016.



* Okay, San Antonio was only a 37-point game, but close enough.
ain't nobody stopping the freighttrain jahahahahaa
when you can't just bulldoze for easy buckets you go to that finesse
i am just talking bout kobe being more skilled but yeah bronbron hit em with the heisman for those high%

jahahahahaa

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bron has one trump card that he plays over and over to get buckets
straight bully ball using a combo of size/speed/strength to score
kobe skill level was woah he got his buckets based on having a deeeeeep arsenal to pull from

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Uhh no. Lebron is an extremely versatile scorer that tends to go for the most effective shot he's given. I swear, most of you idiots don't even watch Lebron. Prime Lebron was in an entirely different level than Kobe when it comes to touch around the rim, slashing ability, and the ability to finish. Getting to the rim like Lebron despite the fact the entire team is geared to keep him out of the paint isn't just physical gifts.

what else do NBA players play the game of basketball for?


The whole purpose of sports is... TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP at the end of the season.

So Pippen> Kobe? He has more championships, playoff stats don't apparently matter that much since Lebron shyts on Kobe in stats, and FMVPs don't seem to matter much because Lebron has more than Kobe.
 

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ain't nobody stopping the freighttrain jahahahahaa
when you can't just bulldoze for easy buckets you go to that finesse
i am just talking bout kobe being more skilled but yeah bronbron hit em with the heisman for those high%

jahahahahaa

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Lebron averages similar 3P shooting numbers to Kobe in the playoffs across their playoff career.

During both of their rings as first options, they also averaged similar three point numbers on attempts and percentage.

So....
 

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Uhh no. Lebron is an extremely versatile scorer that tends to go for the most effective shot he's given. I swear, most of you idiots don't even watch Lebron. Prime Lebron was in an entirely different level than Kobe when it comes to touch around the rim, slashing ability, and the ability to finish. Getting to the rim like Lebron despite the fact the entire team is geared to keep him out of the paint isn't just physical gifts.



So Pippen> Kobe? He has more championships, playoff stats don't apparently matter that much since Lebron shyts on Kobe in stats, and FMVPs don't seem to matter much because Lebron has more than Kobe.


so the main thesis of this post is Kobe < Pippen, because championships,


in your supporting ideas you talk about lebron playoff stats and FMVPs while comparing Pippen and Kobe..

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Also how many finals mvp's Pippen got without Jordan, and how many Championships he win without Jordan, I'll wait.
 

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Uhh no. Lebron is an extremely versatile scorer that tends to go for the most effective shot he's given. I swear, most of you idiots don't even watch Lebron. Prime Lebron was in an entirely different level than Kobe when it comes to touch around the rim, slashing ability, and the ability to finish. Getting to the rim like Lebron despite the fact the entire team is geared to keep him out of the paint isn't just physical gifts.

:mjgrin:know what you right bron more skilled than mamba thanks for the knowledge*
 

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kobe bryant better scorer than lebron??? LMAOOOOO im sobbbin im sobbin im yellin
 

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Lebron averages similar 3P shooting numbers to Kobe in the playoffs across their playoff career.

During both of their rings as first options, they also averaged similar three point numbers on attempts and percentage.

So....
:mjgrin:cause they defend mamba the same way they defend bron right¿*
 

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so the main thesis of this post is Kobe < Pippen, because championships,


in your supporting ideas you talk about lebron playoff stats and FMVPs while comparing Pippen and Kobe..

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Also how many finals mvp's Pippen got without Jordan, and how many Championships he win without Jordan, I'll wait.

Lebron has more FMVPS and better numbers than Kobe but you say Kobe is ahead because he has more rings despite the fact that he was the second option, on the biggest stage, for three of them.

So if you weigh total championships over stats and rings as the number one option, you'd have to agree that Pippen is better than Kobe too.

If you say Kobe is better than Pippen because he has more rings as a number one option and better stats then the same should apply to Lebron who has more rings than Kobe as the number one option and better numbers.

So which are you giving credence too?
 

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:mjgrin:cause they defend mamba the same way they defend bron right¿*

So Lebron isn't as good of a scorer as Kobe because he's a much better slasher and able to get more space for his threes due to the threat of his drive?

I thought he just bullied every opponent but now he shoots numbers just as good as Kobe but still no credit?
 

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Lebron has more FMVPS and better numbers than Kobe but you say Kobe is ahead because he has more rings despite the fact that he was the second option, on the biggest stage, for three of them.

So if you weigh total championships over stats and rings as the number one option, you'd have to agree that Pippen is better than Kobe too.

If you say Kobe is better than Pippen because he has more rings as a number one option and better stats then the same should apply to Lebron who has more rings than Kobe as the number one option and better numbers.

So which are you giving credence too?
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So Lebron isn't as good of a scorer as Kobe because he's a much better slasher and able to get more space for his threes due to the threat of his drive?

I thought he just bullied every opponent but now he shoots numbers just as good as Kobe but still no credit?

:mjgrin:contested shots are easier than open ones¿
:mjgrin:bron should hit them shots he's a pro bet kobe would love those looks

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Lebron has more FMVPS and better numbers than Kobe but you say Kobe is ahead because he has more rings despite the fact that he was the second option, on the biggest stage, for three of them.

So if you weigh total championships over stats and rings as the number one option, you'd have to agree that Pippen is better than Kobe too.

If you say Kobe is better than Pippen because he has more rings as a number one option and better stats then the same should apply to Lebron who has more rings than Kobe as the number one option and better numbers.

So which are you giving credence too?

WHAT???

Now, Pippen never lead a team to the NBA Finals as the man. you gotta understand how to differentiate caliber of players. like when you guys bring up Kerr and Horry.

Now, stats and rings in regards to Kobe and LeBron.
In rings Kobe beats LeBron, so there goes that argument right.
In stats Kobe is neck and neck with LeBron if you compare all their prime years.


Kobes career stats are lower than lebrons because he wasn't a full-fledge starter for his 1st 2 years and played 15.5 mpg as a rookie. played 26 mpg as a 2nd year player, starting only 7 games in both of those seasons.
Meanwhile LeBron came in averaging 39.5 mpg as a rookie, and 42.4 mpg in his 2nd year.........................


Shall we proceed?
 

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WHAT???

Now, Pippen never lead a team to the NBA Finals as the man. you gotta understand how to differentiate caliber of players. like when you guys bring up Kerr and Horry.

So in 2006, when Kobe had never led a team to the NBA Finals as the man, he couldn't possibly be as good as, say, Dwyane Wade or Hakeem. It didn't matter that Kobe had three rings, they were all second-fiddle rings, so he wasn't as good as guys like Wade and The Dream who had clearly been "the man" in their Finals. In fact, he wasn't even as good as Pippen, who had won 6 second-fiddle championships to Kobe's 3.

However, when 2009-2010 came around and Kobe finally rode the best frontcourt in basketball and the most decorated coach of all time to win his first title as "the man", all those previous championships from 10 years earlier suddenly retroactively transformed into "the man" championships, through some magical process.

Thus, in 2009-10, Kobe not only shot past Pippen, he shot past Wade and Hakeem and IT and Moses and all the other guys who had won 1-2 championships as "the man". Incredibly, he even suddenly surpassed Bird and Duncan and Shaq and the the other guys with 3-4 championships, because those previous championships that 10 years earlier had never been worth much because Kobe had never been "the man" suddenly became worth as much as every Finals MVP that Bird or Shaq or Duncan had ever racked up.

With a single title, Kobe jumped from zero "the man" championships to four. :ohhh:

That seriously has to be the stupidest train of logic I have EVER heard. :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:


Let me say it slow so the Kobestans don't get confused and understand exactly how I am mocking them:


FROM 2000-2008, KOBE'S 3 RINGS DIDN'T COUNT AS 3 RINGS BECAUSE HE'D NEVER BEEN "THE MAN".

IN 2009-2010, KOBE'S ZERO RINGS MAGICALLY TRANSFORMED INTO 5 RINGS A DECADE LATE.

THEREFORE, KOBE WASN'T ON WADE'S LEVEL BEFORE 2009, BUT WAS ON MAGIC/KAREEM LEVEL BY 2010.

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He has 2 definite championships as the man.
Although you can argue that he has 3 because he was at or around the level of Shaq for the third championship. (Which tied him with Shaq, although Kobe won 1 more title than Shaq and The big diesel had Wade, Penny, and to a lesser extent, Lebron, Nash, KG, as teammates)

On top of that as a very young man he was a big factor in 2 more championships, especially during the playoffs.

He has 7 Finals appearances, and unlike Lebron, he did it in one of, if not THE toughest Conference in NBA history. (Y'all cry and say Lebron got swept by an all time Spurs team and that 90's basketball and below is garbage) Kobe was competing against Duncan in his prime (whom many consider a top 7 player or higher in NBA history) almost yearly in the playoffs, if not he was playing those mavs who, you know, held Lebron to under 18 ppg in that Finals beatdown. Or he was playing D'Antonis Suns with Nash Amare Marion in their primes and Joe Johnson. Or Jerry Sloans Jazz with Millsap Boozer Kirilenko and Deron, or those rockets with Tmac and Yao. Chris Pauls hornets, KG's Timberwolves, Ray Allens Sonics, all player that were in or just before their prime.


Let's not forget the Eastern conference was terrible and Lebron still went out and joined Wade and Bosh, the 4th and 5th pick of the same draft he was selected in (while in their primes at that) And still only went 2 for 4, which would've been 1 for 4 if Bosh doesn't rebound Lebrons 3pt brick, or if instead of passing to Ray Allen after he rebounded it he passes it back to Lebron who was calling for the ball back.

Meanwhile Kobe NEVER LEFT L.A.
 

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ain't nobody stopping the freighttrain jahahahahaa
when you can't just bulldoze for easy buckets you go to that finesse
i am just talking bout kobe being more skilled but yeah bronbron hit em with the heisman for those high%

jahahahahaa

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stop it...lebron's best games in the playoffs are not "bulldoze easy baskets" by any means













 
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