Why Kobe Bryant was a greater scorer than LeBron James will ever be

[CarbonBraddock]

Is Brooke Lopez or Pau Gasol a better scorer than Shaq because they're better at mid-range shots and have more range or does Shaq sheer efficiency and ability to get to the paint, at will, supersede their versatility?

If Lebron is GOAT-tier at getting to the lane and finishing while being able to do it more consistently and efficiently while being doubled or tripled (While also being played for his drive for 99% of his career) and being a more efficient three point shooter...what does that mean?

Scoring Versatility doesn't correlate to better when you're as dominant as Lebron/Shaq/Hakeem.

Lebron can score just as many, or more, points on less attempts because he's all but impossible to guard and keep from the lane. And our people still using this "He can't post BS"? Lebron has been dominating from the post for like 4 years straight. He pretty much requires an instant double team now.

brehs, this stupid retard is right. the object of the game is buckets period. only some insecure moron would try to search for 'better efficiency from 3-24 feet' as if that means something when it comes to kobe vs lebron. anyone who knows basketball would take lebron over kobe and if you would not then you don't want to win more than anything.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Lebron is better than Timmy.
But only him.

Spoiler: ARE. YOU. NOT. ENTERTAINED????

Lebron is not better Tim Duncan

 

[Everythingg]

If Kobe shot at Lebron-level efficiency from midrange, it would have lowered his career scoring by.....0.7ppg

is the right one to use on your post breh. Better efficiency /= better scorer. .

Who had the more variety in the way they could score between Kobe and Bron? We might as well throw Tmac in there too. The different ways they could get buckets shows they were better at SCORING. But yea poor shot selection at time lowered their percentages. Steve Nash shot better percentages than AI but was he the better scorer? I cant say that. Just like I cant say that Shaq was a better scorer than Hakeem no matter what the percentages say. This over focus on stats/analytics ruins the feel for the actual game of basketball. Think of it in the most simplest terms.

If you're playing pick up and theres a guy that runs around screens and finds a way to score or pass every bucket off the screen vs a guy who can post up, drive, shoot, but misses more shots.. Who is the BETTER scorer? The one that can do it on their own in a variety of ways but at a lesser % or the guy who does it on a higher % with screens? I think the analytic geeks say the guy who uses screens is but I think those with an actual FEEL for the game would say the one who does it in a variety of ways on their own is the better scorer... Dont be a geek breh

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

is the right one to use on your post breh. Better efficiency /= better scorer. .

Who had the more variety in the way they could score between Kobe and Bron? We might as well throw Tmac in there too. The different ways they could get buckets shows they were better at SCORING. But yea poor shot selection at time lowered their percentages. Steve Nash shot better percentages than AI but was he the better scorer? I cant say that. Just like I cant say that Shaq was a better scorer than Hakeem no matter what the percentages say. This over focus on stats/analytics ruins the feel for the actual game of basketball. Think of it in the most simplest terms.

If you're playing pick up and theres a guy that runs around screens and finds a way to score or pass every bucket off the screen vs a guy who can post up, drive, shoot, but misses more shots.. Who is the BETTER scorer? The one that can do it on their own in a variety of ways but at a lesser % or the guy who does it on a higher % with screens? I think the analytic geeks say the guy who uses screens is but I think those with an actual FEEL for the game would say the one who does it in a variety of ways on their own is the better scorer... Dont be a geek breh

Scoring more point scoring on fewer shots means a better scorer. Doesn't matter how pretty it looks or any of that extra shyt. James scores more on fewer shots while moving the ball more effectively too.

 

[godkiller]

If one looks closely at OP's numbers, Lebron is better than Kobe at the most efficient scoring zones - under the rim and at the 3 point line. Kobe is only better in the mid range which isn't all that impactful a zone anyway. Lebron was the more effacacious and impactful scorer than Kobe. Ergo he's better.

Kobe scoring more efficient fade aways from mid range means he is a less of a scorer than Lebron efficiently hitting 3s because 3s mean more in the game.

 

[Everythingg]

Scoring more point scoring on fewer shots means a better scorer. Doesn't matter how pretty it looks or any of that extra shyt. James scores more on fewer shots while moving the ball more effectively too.

So Shaq is a better scorer than Hakeem because he had better percentages?

The game is more nuanced than these geeks know. When you play the game, you can see the difference between a person needing plays ran to get their buckets, or screens, verse I guy you can just give it to and get out the way and see him drive, post up, shoot all without the need of a play or screen. The guy that when a person goes to screen they wave him off vs the player that will use the screen everytime to get their bucker or pass off for an assist To me, and most people who PLAY the game, they'd say the player who scores in a variety of ways is the better INDIVIDUAL player than the one that is efficient while getting the help of screens and plays.Of course for the TEAM the efficient player is better, but individually it doesnt make him a better scorer. Geeks say otherwise and other geeks (or unsuspecting brehs) waltz right along with it

You could NEVER play Kobe or Tmac or even AI like the Spurs did Bron in 07

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

So Shaq is a better scorer than Hakeem because he had better percentages?

The game is more nuanced than these geeks know. When you play the game, you can see the difference between a person needing plays ran to get their buckets, or screens, verse I guy you can just give it to and get out the way and see him drive, post up, shoot all without the need of a play or screen. The guy that when a person goes to screen they wave him off vs the player that will use the screen everytime to get their bucker or pass off for an assist To me, and most people who PLAY the game, they'd say the player who scores in a variety of ways is the better INDIVIDUAL player than the one that is efficient while getting the help of screens and plays.Of course for the TEAM the efficient player is better, but individually it doesnt make him a better scorer. Geeks say otherwise and other geeks (or unsuspecting brehs) waltz right along with it

You could NEVER play Kobe or Tmac or even AI like the Spurs did Bron in 07

He scored more on fewer shots. That is what makes a scorer better. The Spurs beat Cleveland because they had a better coaching staff by miles and the 2nd through 5th best players the the very least all played for the Spurs. If Kobe was so great like you're trying to argue then why couldn't he even get out of the first round against a Suns team that got handled by the Spurs? t pain never even won a playoff series. Get all the way out of here with that shyt.

 

[godkiller]

So Shaq is a better scorer than Hakeem because he had better percentages?

The game is more nuanced than these geeks know. When you play the game, you can see the difference between a person needing plays ran to get their buckets, or screens, verse I guy you can just give it to and get out the way and see him drive, post up, shoot all without the need of a play or screen. The guy that when a person goes to screen they wave him off vs the player that will use the screen everytime to get their bucker or pass off for an assist To me, and most people who PLAY the game, they'd say the player who scores in a variety of ways is the better INDIVIDUAL player than the one that is efficient while getting the help of screens and plays.Of course for the TEAM the efficient player is better, but individually it doesnt make him a better scorer. Geeks say otherwise and other geeks (or unsuspecting brehs) waltz right along with it

You could NEVER play Kobe or Tmac or even AI like the Spurs did Bron in 07

Lebron's may score in less various ways than Kobe but he is virtually unstoppable in the way he scores. Individually Bron is a more impactful scorer than Kobe. He can't be stopped just like Kobe and his points affect the game more than Kobe's do. Much of Kobe's fame comes from chucking mid range fade aways - pretty to see but not that effective in the long run when Lebron can just barrel his way to the bucket and hit 3s when driving in lanes aren't there.

Comparing Kobe to Lebron is like comparing a Swiss knife to a dagger. The Swiss knife has a knife and can cut and maim in various ways, but the dagger has a larger blade and is more efficient in combat.

 

[Everythingg]

He scored more on fewer shots. That is what makes a scorer better. The Spurs beat Cleveland because they had a better coaching staff by miles and the 2nd through 5th best players the the very least all played for the Spurs. If Kobe was so great like you're trying to argue then why couldn't he even get out of the first round against a Suns team that got handled by the Spurs?

They backed off Lebron and dared him to shoot. No matter what the percentages say, that was never a way to stop Kobe, Tmac or AI. .As well, cant speak for AI/Tmac but can for Kobe, when it came down to the end of the shot clock, Kobe was TAKING the shot while Lebron sometimes holds it for 20 seconds before passing it to where he can get an assist or avoid taking a forced shot.

The Lakers were up 3-1 and should closed off the series but the bigger pictures shows that they shouldnt have even been up 3-1. They were the 8th seed that year facing the 1st. They were playin with house money.

And like I said, individually, no matter what the percentages say, Hakeem was a better scorer than Shaq. Point blank period. For team success? Shaq all the way though... Only geeks ignore the actual feel for the game for stat sheets.

 

[Everythingg]

Lebron's may score in less various ways than Kobe but he is virtually unstoppable in the way he scores. Individually Bron is a more impactful scorer than Kobe. He can't be stopped just like Kobe and his points affect the game more than Kobe's do. Much of Kobe's fame comes from chucking mid range fade aways - pretty to see but not that effective in the long run when Lebron can just barrel his way to the bucket and hit 3s when driving in lanes aren't there.

Comparing Kobe to Lebron is like comparing a Swiss knife to a dagger. The Swiss knife has a knife and can cut and maim in various ways, but the dagger has a larger blade and is more efficient in combat.

I dont think Hakeem is a worse scorer than Shaq because of percentages breh. If you saw a breh doing Hakeems moves vs a dude getting his points like Shaq at the rec gym, you would leave saying that Hakeem was the better scorer. The overly analytical brehs would run to a stat sheet before making their decision..

 

[Rigby.]

its like yall lakers nikkas just curse yourselves lol

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Lebron in Miami 2-2
Lebron in Cleveland 1-2
Kobe without Shaq 2-1
Kobe with Shaq 3-1

 

[ghostwriterx]

They backed off Lebron and dared him to shoot. No matter what the percentages say, that was never a way to stop Kobe, Tmac or AI. .As well, cant speak for AI/Tmac but can for Kobe, when it came down to the end of the shot clock, Kobe was TAKING the shot while Lebron sometimes holds it for 20 seconds before passing it to where he can get an assist or avoid taking a forced shot.

The Lakers were up 3-1 and should closed off the series but the bigger pictures shows that they shouldnt have even been up 3-1. They were the 8th seed that year facing the 1st. They were playin with house money.

And like I said, individually, no matter what the percentages say, Hakeem was a better scorer than Shaq. Point blank period. For team success? Shaq all the way though... Only geeks ignore the actual feel for the game for stat sheets.

LOL well yeah if you're just going to ignore shooting percentages than anything goes.

Kobe and AI are both better one on one scorers than LeBron, but if you're counting efficiency and I don't know how you ignore it when evaluating players in a team sport, Lebron > Bean > AI. The one caveat I would put is Kobe is clearly the most skilled he just took too many bad shots. One guy to get a bucket regardless of time/score Kobe > LeBron > AI

 

[ndthentherewasx]

Because he shot more


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