Why Melo's playoff record is a cop out and grossly overstated.

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Melo's playoff record gets brought up as a last resort argument when people put him below players like Lebron, Wade, Kobe, etc. If you actually look at the circumstances, it's not really on him. He team just lost to better teams in a stacked western conference. Just know that Melo took a Nuggets team to the playoffs every year since day one that rarely sniffed the playoffs before he got there. So lets look at the teams he lost to.



2004 TWolves - he was a rookie and lost to a KG team that almost went to the finals. They had Cassell and Spree. The Wolves were clearly better

2005 Spurs - Better team, better coach point blank period

2006 Clippers - Lost to a Clippers team that had Cassell, Brand, Kaman and Mobely and while that isn't a championship lineup Denver's second scoring option was either Andre Miller or Greg Buckner. I mean Edwardo Najera was the starting PF on.. Earl BOykins?!?!

2007 Spurs - They traded for A.I. that year and Melo missed all of those games due to that brawl. Team didn't really have to to gel and the Spurs still had a better team.

2008 Lakers - Lakers got Pau and once again.. the lakers were just a better team. They went to the finals that year.

2009 Lakers - They finally got a high seed which got them better draws and he won 2 playoff series, but once again... the Nuggets were not better than that Lakers team that won a title after going to the finals the previous year. But it was 2-2.

2010 Jazz - This is probably the only series you can say he should've won but didn't. They got rid of A.I. for Billups but the Jazz had Boozer, Williams, Millsap and the Nuggets basically had no consisent 2nd option after Melo.

2011 Celtics - Can't blame Melo for that ass of a lineup he had to play with.

2012 Heat - Heat were just a better team and they won the chip.



So basically, Melo had to play in a stacked western conference for the early first half of his career. Not his fault. You can't honestly say that he lost to teams that were lesser than his. KG never caught flack for not even getting to the playoffs let alone losing playoff games. Basketball isn't about ONE player, Teams win titles. Wade won his first title with veterans like Shaq, Payton etc. Kobe won with a force inside be it shaq or Pau and he had a great supporting cast, but for some reason critics look at Melo's losign record like it's his fault.
 

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Only to a certain degree, let's not act like he has done everything in his power to avoid having the 'worst player playoff record over the last 20 years'. Because even though he's been a victim of circumstance and had bad luck with the teams he came up against in the West, these following seasons (over his prime) will be the most telling: in regards to whether or not his piss-poor playoff record was foreshadowing the ineffectiveness of meloball or if he did have insurmountable bad luck go against him.
 

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Same ole story Melo gets all the passes but if this lebron yall would be ripping his head off :comeon:


You know what I won't even rant on Melo.

I'll just say I hope he finally wins an an individual award since he's the games best all around scorer right :youngsabo:


:umad: fukk that bum ass nikka. bytch can't even get a fukking scoring title.

:ohhh: so him coming to camp flabby and not getting good in shape till mid season is a team thing too right :rudy:


Ole dropping confetti over one play off win ass nikkas fukk outta here. Bully huh
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Who cares if Bron got the same treatment. If its wrong, it's wrong.

The whole it's Melo fault thing as if he held his teams back is pure garbage
 

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you can make this same case for TMac, yet he still gets ridiculed.

The teams he had in Houston were stronger and had homecourt

But TMac got ridicule because of the "I'm glad we in the 2nd round" line against Detroit in 2002, when they were up 3-1 and then proceeded to lose that series in 7.


Melo just been unlucky.
 

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Lebron got the same treatment, get used to it fakkit

No he didn't. He got critiqued but it was on a different scale. Critics are basically saying Melo is wack because he hasn't won in the playoffs when it wasn't really his fault, he just caught better teams in the first round. He caught the Lakers and Spurs twice. If Lebron had to go through the Spurs and Lakers just to get to the finals how many times does it get to the finals? Probably zero.
 

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I think Lebron put it on himself by promising 7 championships. I could be wrong, but no one criticized Bron's playoff performance with the Cavs, and if they did it was nearly as bad as two seasons ago.

Also, If the Knicks lose to the Heat I don't think it should count against Mello. The Heat are really the best example of a super team that we've seen. If they lose to any other team in the playoffs then, yeah...Mello deserves some shyt
 

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ok so your argument is he lost to a better team every year

i think the point is he has never made anyof his teams elite like a so called superstar should

I could be wrong, but no one criticized Bron's playoff performance with the Cavs, and if they did it was nearly as bad as two seasons ago.

yes your VERY wrong and dont doubt it :krs:
 

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While melo has lost to better teams at times the talent gap is often time exaggerated. For example
2008 Lakers

G-Fisher
G-Kobe
F-Vlad
F-Odom
C-Gasol

2008 Nuggets
G-Iverson
G-Carter
F-Melo
F-Kmart
C-Marcus Camby

Where is this massive talent gap edge? Iverson and Melo were both top 15 players that season and AI was actually better then Gasol who didn't even make the all star team that year. Camby lead the league is blocks and was all defensive 1st team that season.

Iverson was better then melo in that series, dude did not play well. It's more so his playoff performances then his actual losses
 

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No he didn't. He got critiqued but it was on a different scale. Critics are basically saying Melo is wack because he hasn't won in the playoffs when it wasn't really his fault, he just caught better teams in the first round. He caught the Lakers and Spurs twice. If Lebron had to go through the Spurs and Lakers just to get to the finals how many times does it get to the finals? Probably zero.

So Lebron wasn't criticized for not winning in the playoffs now? :dead:


Don't mind me though I'm just waiting for @charmander and the rest of the Hawks fans to run train on your thread like they always do, you dirty New Yorker.

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Who cares if Bron got the same treatment. If its wrong, it's wrong.

The whole it's Melo fault thing as if he held his teams back is pure garbage

He might not have held them back but he didn't push them forward enough.
With that said I still think he's a good player. Hopefully this year he can take another step forward.
 

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The teams he had in Houston were stronger and had homecourt

But TMac got ridicule because of the "I'm glad we in the 2nd round" line against Detroit in 2002, when they were up 3-1 and then proceeded to lose that series in 7.


Melo just been unlucky.

he had HCA just once in 07, and they should have won this series, but Yao got abused by Boozer badly in this series. But oh well.
 
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