Why was 2pac praised, but Nas criticized for using this exact same beat?

[Piff Perkins]

Those were the reasons

I don't think people understand just how disappointed people were at the mere idea of Nas singing and rapping over a sample like that. The beat is hot, no fukking doubt, but those "real hip hop" dudes were hating heavy on it and the entire IWW album....

Guys like Stretch & Bobbito hated that shyt.

 

[Renzo]

I always thought Nas jacked it as a way of saying "fukk u" to Pac.


Nas had enough time to switch up the beat but chose not to and i concluded he specifically took the beat from the song with the album title to let Pac know "yeah i jacked yo shyt" like Tim Dog did with that NWA beat.

Think Pac peeped that too. Didn't they also use the same beat on "if i ruled the world" and "fukk friends"?

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Hey my ****** I'm not trying to do nyrhing my g

If the mods don't ban this bytch they some hoes

 

[Retrofuture]

If the mods don't ban this bytch they some hoes

New Orleans 9th ward we in this woh wahhhh
Falstall stall street slanging
St Claude killa blatttt

 

[smokeurobinson]

Think Pac peeped that too. Didn't they also use the same beat on "if i ruled the world" and "fukk friends"?

i dont think fukk friends came out till after Pacs death tho. 1st time i heard the og version was the Macheveli series shyt

 

[ISO]

I always thought Nas jacked it as a way of saying "fukk u" to Pac.


Nas had enough time to switch up the beat but chose not to and i concluded he specifically took the beat from the song with the album title to let Pac know "yeah i jacked yo shyt" like Tim Dog did with that NWA beat.

It Was Written recording and production began first and that beat is Trackmasters to a tee.


"I'm tired of these nikkas, nikkas is stealing beats"

 

[Milk N Cookies]

Hey my ****** I'm not trying to do nyrhing my g

 

[Surreal]

Nas 3rd verse is one of his top 10 verses ever and better than Pac verses

 

[mobbinfms]

Let's go verse for verse. You don't want that. :pdahellclean:
I make brehs quit rap :pwhitehat:
I'm so violent :pdahell2:
The only thing that calm me down :pdahell3:
Is more dollars :prodigylol:

 

[spliz]

I think Stretch produced a track on IWW right?

Take It In Blood.

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

Let's go verse for verse. You don't want that. :pdahellclean:
I make brehs quit rap :pwhitehat:
I'm so violent :pdahell2:
The only thing that calm me down :pdahell3:
Is more dollars :prodigylol:

Nas singing on the hook though.

Pac and syke did their thing. I just like it more. shyt is a classic.

 

[spliz]

Think Pac peeped that too. Didn't they also use the same beat on "if i ruled the world" and "fukk friends"?

fukk Friends wasn't recorded until after If I Ruled The World.

 

[mobbinfms]

I don't think people understand just how disappointed people were at the mere idea of Nas singing and rapping over a sample like that. The beat is hot, no fukking doubt, but those "real hip hop" dudes were hating heavy on it and the entire IWW album....

Guys like Stretch & Bobbito hated that shyt.

Yeah. And there was nothing wrong with being a real hip hop dude in 96. It was just a different time. Artistic integrity was still a thing. People wanted hip hop to have rules. Characteristics. Ideals.
Now all that shyts out the window and we got rappers that mumble sing over shytty trap beats.
You tell me who won.

 

[Clive42]

I think Stretch produced a track on IWW right?

Take it In Blood

He produced this too



Note, you can hear the end of 'The Set Up' beat (track 9) at the beginning of this track so im guessing that nas must've wanted this to be an album track rather than a bonus

 

[Renzo]

i dont think fukk friends came out till after Pacs death tho. 1st time i heard the og version was the Macheveli series shyt

Yea i was thinkin he was like took my beat..ill take yours..i know it was supposed to be on the original track list of makaveli.