Why was 2pac praised, but Nas criticized for using this exact same beat?

[Piff Perkins]

Yeah. And there was nothing wrong with being a real hip hop dude in 96. It was just a different time. Artistic integrity was still a thing. People wanted hip hop to have rules. Characteristics. Ideals.
Now all that shyts out the window and we got rappers that mumble sing over shytty trap beats.
You tell me who won.

My problem is that a lot of people outright dismissed the album despite it being amazing lyrically. Nas didn't fall off on any level from a lyrical standpoint, he murdered every track (even the wack Nas Is Coming lol).

The streets didn't hate on the album at least I guess. You aren't going to find many dudes who think IWW was trash. Purists can hate but yo...Street Dreams bumps. As do many tracks on the album.

 

[Aje]

He produced this too



Note, you can hear the end of 'The Set Up' beat (track 9) at the beginning of this track so im guessing that nas must've wanted this to be an album track rather than a bonus

"Silent Murder" was on the cassette version. Luh' this cut.

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

Yeah. And there was nothing wrong with being a real hip hop dude in 96. It was just a different time. Artistic integrity was still a thing. People wanted hip hop to have rules. Characteristics. Ideals.
Now all that shyts out the window and we got rappers that mumble sing over shytty trap beats.
You tell me who won.

When it was written dropped were you fukking with it?

 

[mobbinfms]

When it was written dropped were you fukking with it?

Yes. I loved it. I'm from the West so I didn't feel it was radio friendly at all.

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

Yes. I loved it. I'm from the West so I didn't feel it was radio friendly at all.

It seems like old head hated on that album. shyt is cool though..I gave you power is an amazing track.

 

[MrFettuccinnePockets]

Both classic but Pac got this one.

All Eyez on me>>>>>>> Street Dreams


If I ruled the world>>>>>>Troublesome 96


How did these 2 get the same beat twice?

 

[DaveyDave]

It's not the "exact" same beat it's the same sample, the beats are similar but different enough that you should be able to tell them apart if you listsned to the instrumental. they're as about as different as you can get using the same loop.




it used to happen a lot but seeing that these albums would have been made around the same time and released only a few months apart i don't think one was biting off the other. Pac's song was an album cut so there's not much reason to believe Nas would have heard it while recording IWW. mixing and mastering takes time and i don't think there would have been time for Nas to record that song and get it out on the album in 3 or 4 months

 

[Yaddam Yussein]

Didn't PAC diss him for using the same beat on Against All Odds.

 

[avon barksdale]

2pac love mashing niccas on they own beat he said

 

[CapitalforCapital]

Superstar vs. just a good rapper.

 

[mobbinfms]

Superstar vs. just a good rapper.

 

[Rigby.]

streets dream is a god tier track

that's all I gotta say

 

[cornercommission2k12]

IWW imo is a classic and even better than illmatic imo

But

"So much trouble in the world nikka,
Can't nobody feel your pain"

>>>>>>>>> everything on street dreams.

That song got skipped

Hell still does.

 

[Farrinto]

I liked the remix better, I never liked the OG that much.

 

[soulfuljah]

It seems like old head hated on that album. shyt is cool though..I gave you power is an amazing track.

Pac thought so too