Why was MF Doom never relevant to the masses?

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Quite simply he was black balled.

Past that he overachieved.
given the administrative bullshyt he was thrust into.

To try to give us knowledge of self as zeb love x.


My first release and classic solo good grief.
pays him total homage and tribute with my peach fuzz rhyme in the third verse.

To the point when i was backstage with va.
Where A 'doom'.
Rocked at university of chicago.

When i am sure that the guy performing.
may have possibly been one of his disengenuine impersonators.

Which should have never been given credence.
as fraud as a doom bot.

As it harkens back to the fraud of the fake saltnpepa.
after the roxanne wars and completely taboo.
In the new school way of thought.
After the segueway from the ol school way of thought.
into the new school way of thought and golden era. Which eventually trickled down to him and third bass.
in the culturally defining record and video visual to gasface.


Yet After gasface and trying to freedom fight on black b*stard. Then being black balled.

Who knows what the cultural scope of doom was after that. As after that.
What can you say.

Which is how even the idea and fallacy of a supposed 'doom bot' gets to exist culturally in hiphopand the pillar of emcee'n.
When that is distinctly taboo and against the pillar of emcee'n.

From the fraud that is sugarhill taking caz's rhyme.


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I think the mystery probably did him in, he wasn’t my preferred rapper but other than the Madlib production don’t recall him having β€œit” to get out of the underground.
 

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Happy g day to doom

Thought the tweet below was dope.


 

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DOOM is a real one's rapper. But reality is that he was so ahead of the time that folks did not come around until it was too late. It did not help during that time hip hop wasn't ready a gimmick rapper, the sample issues with Operation Doomsday being a bytch in a half, and the fact that his lyrics were too over the top to the typical "kill stab and bling" types with hip hop.

Folks forgot that the underground scene was creeping on a come up, but the mainstream wasn't ready for such lyrical miracles. DOOM the GOAT, but sadly he's "our" GOAT.
 

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he was also running around signing to a bunch of different labels like how Kool Keith used to do.

if we want to be all the way 100% Kool Keith was the blueprint for that late 90's early 00 independent label hustle grind. get a bunch of small non exclusive advances. use aliases and drop a bunch of shyt

King Gidora
MF DOOM
Victor Vaughan

Dr. Doom
Kool Keith
Black Elvis

etc etc.

by the time he got that Adult Swim fame he was set in his ways. Doom took advantage of labels on some real villain shyt all the way till the end. He sold the same tracks to stonesthrow and adult swim. Didn't care for the fame push or money. took bags home and on some real shyt JJ Doom is ahead of its time. Not many could pull that record off.
 

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he was also running around signing to a bunch of different labels like how Kool Keith used to do.

if we want to be all the way 100% Kool Keith was the blueprint for that late 90's early 00 independent label hustle grind. get a bunch of small non exclusive advances. use aliases and drop a bunch of shyt

King Gidora
MF DOOM
Victor Vaughan

Dr. Doom
Kool Keith
Black Elvis

etc etc.

by the time he got that Adult Swim fame he was set in his ways. Doom took advantage of labels on some real villain shyt all the way till the end. He sold the same tracks to stonesthrow and adult swim. Didn't care for the fame push or money. took bags home and on some real shyt JJ Doom is ahead of its time. Not many could pull that record off.
Also, Doom took his art very seriously and refused to compromise his sound or rapping style for the masses.

He even said on that 2nd Vikor Vaughn album that he did the album for the advance yet it still stayed true to his core sound despite it being a let down.

He could've easily dropped more promised albums that would've gave him more buzz but he held off on them until he felt the time was right.

He also remained elusive and stayed under the radar.

Nothing about Doom was meant to be for the mainstream. He rarely did hooks, didn't feature big names in the music industry, didn't chase clout, didn't have much of a social media presence, didn't have the hottest beatmakers, didn't make club/radio songs, didn't sing much(except in an ironic way like Biz Markie), etc.

His style was underground in the true sense and he preferred to keep it that way. That JJ Doom album was the closest he came to putting out a contemporary sounding album and even that still had dense rhymes and a whole Afrocentric song about melanin.

Doom didn't want nor need the masses. That was literally the whole point of his persona and career choices.
 

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I mean... it's pretty obvious why. All we really have to do is look at what the masses are into and consider that DOOM was very far left of that.

The great thing for him was that his style of music does have its own niche that he was able to carve out and there are listeners that enjoy it, all the obscure references and the nostalgia in some of the content, the characters, the weird sample choices, etc. It was never cut out or intended for mass appeal. It's a prime example of how if you make a unique enough product, it might be too "different" for people who don't get it, but it can create its own phenomenon with those who do.
 

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I mean... it's pretty obvious why. All we really have to do is look at what the masses are into and consider that DOOM was very far left of that.

The great thing for him was that his style of music does have its own niche that he was able to carve out and there are listeners that enjoy it, all the obscure references and the nostalgia in some of the content, the characters, the weird sample choices, etc. It was never cut out or intended for mass appeal. It's a prime example of how if you make a unique enough product, it might be too "different" for people who don't get it, but it can create its own phenomenon with those who do.
Yeah. He literally went out of his way not to appeal to the masses.

He has a strong cult following though like you said. There's murals of him in random parts of the world.
 

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Back then Adult swim was mainstream I'd say.

Either way I became a fan with Mouse and The Mask and I tried to put brews on...he's not for everyone to understand .
 
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