"Why you fukking me but not helping"?....you see me doing bad but don't wanna help"

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

This is the suit of conversation we're having

there's a ton of dope Black podcast type shows besides this tho.... they all got their target audience

 

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So you basically saying shes too mentally weak to use protection and or messing with idiot men in general who dont wear condoms. And that somehow places some arbitrary value on her genitals?

Im honestly not following your logic here. Where does the personal accountability come in here, on either side.

Yall want to act like women are capable of bejng strong and independent, and they are. But you also make it seem like they make the most retarded deccisions because of feelings and its perfectly fine. You cant have it both ways.

I held her accountable from the beginning! I LITERALLY said she had low self esteem and was making bad decisions.

You are setting up a false equivalence between human independent autonomy that was denied to women in many ways in the past thus necessitating the fight for equality

And

Not allowing people to use you for what they want while not getting what you need.

Why? I don’t understand the disconnection between the idea that women are fully capable human beings who can stand on their own two feet and also need and desire love, support and care from those they are intimate with.

What is it about equality that chafes men so much that they think women shouldn’t even get basic human decency when they assert their worth?

Wanting the person between your legs to also be somebody who gives a damn about you as person has ZILCH to do with your ability to stand on your two feet.

This goes way deeper into some of the way these dudes think than I imagined.

Im serious. No insult to you but this type of thinking floored me.

The idea that a female human being, who is a capable person, makes men so incensed or resentful at asserting that value, so they think chicks should just fukk somebody and expect nothing from them even if that’s not what they want from the sexual experience for themselves?

There’s no logic there. But thanks for your response. This has been eye opening.

 

[The Realist Perspective]

No, I never said that. But your initial post stated that you will always have to spend money to have sex with a woman and that’s not true. I have women in my phone right now that will spend money to have sex with me. You speaking as if regular relationships operate just like prostitution.

I know you didn't say that. That was the initial point I was making as this is what I initially said: Most women are not looking for mere dikk out of a sexual relationship. 9 times out of 10, a man had to spend some type of money to get to the point of fukking. Hence, "Most women..."

 

[Astroslik]

Classy queens

Strongest links

 

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If that's what she wants then that's the type of energy she needs to start putting out. No self respecting man will give her that when she out here whoring herself out. Her IG is basically an ad for the highest bidder.

That’s what I’ve been saying all this time. But dudes got mad at me encouraging her to have even THOSE standards.

 

[Eternally Jaded]

Confuse me if wrong but wasnt this about a women thinking she deserves to be taken care of becauase she gave up her cooter? What is this woman in her talking about

Im legit confused, shes all over the place.

Books said she was right but I think she misstepped by not adding in she was wrong also.

If all a person rates you for is sexual use, either only do the same in return and stash all the other issues on your backburner, or just don't deal with them at all.

If a bowl of chicken soup is too much to drop off when I'm sick, I probably don't need to be trusting you with my body in health.

 

[The Realist Perspective]

You wrote all of that for nothing because this is about what each partner wants from this situation.

He just wants to fukk.
She doesn’t want just his dikk. She wants an experience. She wants to be loved. Cared for. Helped by the person she is sharing her body with.

There is nothing wrong with just wanting sex.

There is also nothing wrong with someone wanting deeper level of affection and connection from someone they have sex with.

If she wants the latter, then she should not have sex with men who don’t give a damn about her. The problem is her low self-esteem won’t allow her to communicate her needs and say NOPE to dudes who can’t or won’t see to her needs.

So she needs to work on that before she lays down with other men, instead of taking Ls like this and thinking sex=love/affection/connection/care.

Coulda woulda shoulda. In the scenario in the OP, they are already sexually active. You can get on your soap box about self esteem...but that is simply not the discussion.

 

[HARLEM AL]

You laugh breh but it's the truth, the way I live.

How can a man refer to a woman as a hoe, unless all he sees her as, is a tool to be used?

I'm not a captain type but how can I resent someone for saying that they're not gonna deal with you unless they feel respected in turn?

As a black man in America?

Respect is the bare minimum.

These broads are trying to exchange p*ssy for monetary gain. That’s in fact prostitution. Any woman that wants to have a healthy relationship without anything being monetary is a woman that will be in a relationship or better yet married.

But yeah, you in fact wear your underwear outside your clothes my brother

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Why is she demanding what she seems to refuse to work and get on her own. Her product can be gotten from another woman. Is p*ssy all she got? I blame her mama even tho society will blame the father

 

[The_Truth]

She didn't say "boyfriend" or "my man" once. She's talking about a ni66a she's just fukking. You can't expect boyfriend privileges from a fukk buddy.

 

[Starski]

One time I had a girl ask me what my type was..... I was probably in a good mood & feeling myself so I answered

1. to fukk
2. To date casually
3. To date seriously


She legit hit the . Like what I was saying made no sense. Each different answer has a different requirement & in turn a higher level of effort on my part.

Women like this think want to fukk is the equivalent of being taken seriously, or at least reap the benefits of a women that should be taken seriously.

 

[AAKing23]

If you’re down bad, you shouldn’t be having sex, but if you’re going to use men as a part time job, then be a prostitute. You won’t have meaningful relationships and a dude supplementing you financially the same time.

And the whole concept of someone being a prize is trite af. Imagine a human being coming into your life with that line of thinking. They fitting to waste your time.

Agree 100%

 

[Edub]

Word...these females be goofy af, like they really think p*ssy is a ticket for a nikka to fix all they life problems, financial ones the most....shyt is short

 

[Eternally Jaded]

These broads are trying to exchange p*ssy for monetary gain. That’s in fact prostitution. Any woman that wants to have a healthy relationship without anything being monetary is a woman that will be in a relationship or better yet married.

But yeah, you in fact wear your underwear outside your clothes my brother

 

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What was the point of this deep connection is the ultimate point I'm getting at. You place such a high value on these genuine connections, you would think you would be married by now. You had 3 separate chances, apparently. Maybe you don't want to be married I don't know but something is not adding up with what you're telling me. 3 solid connections with 3 different men that opened the gates to your soul mate sensitive walls, yet they fell apart due to timing, insecurities and distance. Not to mention, you may have possibly broken up with 1 or all 3 of them. Something definitely isn't adding up at all.

How did you do any better than a woman that knows a man for a week, has sex, it doesn't work out, then she moves on? Trying to shame a woman that "gives it up easily" is silly because both of you ended up in the same boat. You have/had dikk but the man wasn't entirely attached. Your connection meant nothing.

LMAO!!! So now we come full circle.
First the fearmongering.
“Buss it open or u gon be alone!”

Then the Shaming Tactics
“Well u single Yosef so u might as well buss it open!”

Now in an ironic twist, accusing ME of Slut Shaming
“You shaming her b-b-but u da same!”

Anything. ANYTHING to get a chick to fukk and lower her standards.

So now you going down the scorched earth, nihilistic path.
“If it didn’t work out, your connections mean nothing!”

Lol! There’s a big difference between experiencing love, having people care about you, be there for you, and just being used.

The difference is having somebody you were intimate with come through and hold you when you had death in your family even though the two of you may have hurt each other in the past.

The difference is having true friendship that helps you move your entire apartment for free even when you not together anymore.

The difference is knowing you loved somebody and they loved you in return. Even if life happens and timing wasn’t right or stuff went wrong, there is value in having dealt with genuinely good people you can depend on in your time of need.

That truth speaks for itself. The actions shes taken hasnt led to her having those experiences in her life, so I advise women to move differently. You shouldn’t be taking risks fukking men who don’t give a damn about you when you need somebody or it leads to chicks like her feeling like shyt.

Whether relationships, friendships, any connections work out or not, I have people in my life who will stop and come through when I need it and they know I do the same for them. Those are the only types of people I want in my life. The only men I want between my legs whether it progresses to something more in the future or not.

But if you cool with surrounding yourself with people who don’t give a damn about you when u need them then say so because everything else is white noise. Hell you can even take sex outta the equation. People in my circle have cared for me without even a hint of sex. She has worn dudes’ nut on her face and they don’t even give a damn if they see she going through it?!
If that’s what she wants then cool. But it’s obviously not, so she need to move differently.