Will There Ever Be Another Rap Megastar??? (GREAT READ)

[stealthbomber]

@stealthbomber explain yourself bruh....u can't write off Future then say the book is open on Jcole.....if its open for him its open for Wale and everybody....if Future do turn superstar its gon be off musicmusic alone and not drama and fukkery which is damn near impossible to do in this day n age bcuz it wuz hard before the innanets and everybody wanting to know your business.


I want future to blo but superstardom I don't know if he up for it,but I just hope he get to the level of star among hiphop fans where hiphop fans is forced to throw in the towel and check for em even when they claim to hate em....u closin the door on Future just outta spite future fans closin the door on everybody you love

Its crazy to me 2chainz didn't hit that superstar mark,and ain't even in discussions now....he had the streets heavy,sum crossover appeal....don't know what's missin.

i like future for what he is, but lets be all the way real. to be a rap superstar u gotta be able to rap plain and simple. all the fukkery naturally happens as you become more famous and people put a spotlight on u 24/7.

wayne kanye and eminem in the 2000s were THEM nikkaS. they could do no wrong and had hits even beyond the radio. they were tearing the charts up and had the streets (ok the e-steets ) on lock. their music will be appreciated by people forever.

future... i mean the dude is nice and had a great year last year and is up for another good one in 2013. but is he gonna drop album after album that people are gonna eat up? will he have solo songs that become part of american culture? will he still be around in 10 years? i doubt it.

i said j cole because he had a successful debut album, good radio singles, backpackers love him, older cats like his style, and he can rap. only thing holding him back is himself. he's so reserved and not out there like super stars of the past idk if he'll be entertaining to people in the twitter/instagram generation.

 

[45123]

Drake has a lot of fans but he doesn't set trends. Other rappers dont idolize and want to be him like that. Thats why you cant call him a megastar Like a Jay z or 50. Kats forget Jay-z ended had everyone rockin' button-ups and 50 had grown men wearing G-unit bras (wife beaters). Their influence on the youth and culture was crazy. Rappers were even sampling Jay's recent verses on hooks to make new smash hits for themselves ( Cassidy Im a hustler and T.I. Bring em out for example). The newer guys may sell records but they dont have that appeal.

naw, influence takes a backseat to everything. there are plenty of producers and rappers who have innovated certain aspects of hip-hop you hear every day but they're not credited or recognized, and usually these trends die down within a year or 2. as a matter of fact, you don't want to create something that everyone can easily do and overshadow your accomplishments. take a look at just blaze/rza/bink, their high-pitched soul sampling style was rampant and they were trumped out by kanye who not only did it better but on a grander scale. That's what happens when you try and set trends. On the other hand, take a look at the Neptunes who had a signature sound that no one could or was able to replicate, because no one could play instruments like Pharrell and Chad Hugo, and it would be corny if someone else were to add spaceships and lasers into their beats. Now, as far as fashion is concerned, that's more of marketability, if kids are wearing what you're wearing, you just have nice fashion sense and nothing more. like, tell me, who really started the trend of rapping over southern trap beats?? who first started making them?? lex luger? waka flocka flame?


as a matter of fact, it would probably suit an artist better to sit back and jump on the trends. it gives off the illusion of flexibility, versatility, and adaptation. It all depends on the execution though. Kanye and Jay do the trend-hopping the best, but people like 50 and big sean are so transparent with it.

 

[CHITLING flavored CEREAL]

The reason there isn't a new one is because of the whole "hip hop is dead" movement.
fukking nas Listeners and the general public are too reluctant to give their attention to a popular rapper, instead opting for the lesser known underground choice who, most of the time, lacks the star power or the interest to become the next big thing. That in turn squeezes and sifts out the very few underground rappers who have a mere sliver of stardom and forces them to be propelled into the limelight. Take a look at Kendrick, J. Cole, Wale, Meek, etc. They're not stars by any means but they've been shoved down our throats as such. Drake and Nicki are definitely the two new megastars of today, but their current music is hardly considered hip-hop to be quite honest.

Now, to be a star, you have to have crossover appeal and entertain corporate fukkboys. the obsession with underground and backpacker lyrical rappers has crippled mainstream legitimacy and ultimately it discourages new artists to broaden their horizons and give in to industry demands every once in a while. Also, you can't be big if you don't have a mentor or a huge co-sign. Kanye had Jay, Drake has Wayne, Em Snoop and 50 had Dre, Wayne has Birdman, and so forth... Oh and they also have to have a larger than life character or a kind of messiah complex. And finally, the most important thing: hits. No hits = no starpower. And I'm talking Billboard Top 5, platinum 2 months in kind of hits, not those borderline hits everyone talks about.

 

[Wise]

I believe there could be, but there has to be a story to them and they have to be marketed right.

Example: Eminem being white and controversial, 50 being shot 9 times and living, etc.

I think 50 was the last big big one, everybody knew him, white people be like "50 Cent? You know its Fiddy? *starts singing In Da Club*

I think Drake is the only one at the moment.

 

[blackslash]

This thread is really good

 

[bangedher_wholesquad]

Rememeber nobody though Jersey Shore would blow the f*ck up but MTV took a shot in the dark? they barely paid them dudes but becames pretty much a-listers in pop culture.

That's prolly whats gotta happen.

Something nobody expects.

and the public just can't get enough of.

something truly organic.

 

[Still Benefited]

i like future for what he is, but lets be all the way real. to be a rap superstar u gotta be able to rap plain and simple. all the fukkery naturally happens as you become more famous and people put a spotlight on u 24/7.

wayne kanye and eminem in the 2000s were THEM nikkaS. they could do no wrong and had hits even beyond the radio. they were tearing the charts up and had the streets (ok the e-steets ) on lock. their music will be appreciated by people forever.

future... i mean the dude is nice and had a great year last year and is up for another good one in 2013. but is he gonna drop album after album that people are gonna eat up? will he have solo songs that become part of american culture? will he still be around in 10 years? i doubt it.

i said j cole because he had a successful debut album, good radio singles, backpackers love him, older cats like his style, and he can rap. only thing holding him back is himself. he's so reserved and not out there like super stars of the past idk if he'll be entertaining to people in the twitter/instagram generation.

Great post but I think part of you is thinkin in a different era...I think lyrically Future is serviciable enough for this era and can go off when he want to,not to mention the flow is sick....I don't know if the criteria is the same,but maybe I m wrong....its been a while since we had that superstar so its hard to guage where everybody head is....but I can't argue past superstars have had that high respect for they lyrics,and even tho I think its bullshyt Future has the rap as being maybe the worst rapper in the game(ignorant people).....even 2 chainz had a respect level lyrics wise.....so I gotta say u right as far as what history has shown.


Can't agree with Cole,he hasn't shown he can make timeless,music,matter of fact all these nikkas specialize in music that's hot for a minute but not timeless....that goes for Drake,Kendrick,2chainz and anybody else that done came up in this thread so far really...so if that's part of the criteria we ain't gon never have a superstar again it look like....long as Future take the streets,that's cool thou

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

You really can't compare the mid to late 90s and even the early 00s with this era right here. The music industry has collapsed and social media inflates and deflates artists within a few months time. Drake is a rap superstar in this era. Honestly, he shouldn't have survived but he did. Some of the legends from the "golden age" wouldn't be able to make it in this environment. You can't build legends and myths in the Twitter/Instagram age.

Hip hop isn't THE popular music anymore so I don't foresee another Drake for some time. It will happen again, eventually, but a megastar hitting once or twice a year is done.

 

[Wise]

I think you guys are mistaking megastar for good rapper or someone who has a buzz right now.

2 Chainz, Kendrick, Future and these guys are not megastars.

A megastar is someone who can sell out back to back night at Madison Square, Staples Centre, O2 Arena, etc.

The only one who can see that right now is Drizzy, and he's maybe an album away.

 

[Wild self]

You really can't compare the mid to late 90s and even the early 00s with this era right here. The music industry has collapsed and social media inflates and deflates artists within a few months time. Drake is a rap superstar in this era. Honestly, he shouldn't have survived but he did. Some of the legends from the "golden age" wouldn't be able to make it in this environment. You can't build legends and myths in the Twitter/Instagram age.

Hip hop isn't THE popular music anymore so I don't foresee another Drake for some time. It will happen again, eventually, but a megastar hitting once or twice a year is done.

Yeah, Megastars are so few in this era, I wounder why nikkas who rap for the money should even bother.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Drake and Future imo

moreso drake

but if future go on a crazy run i can see him becoming the next star

Future?

No way... He will continue to be a star in the streets but he won't cross over like that. He could have a career like Jeezy if anything.

 

[Artfull Dodger]

New rappers lack legitimate cultural connections and the actual ability to rap well.
Which is why they are not superstars.

That is also,...why there will never be another rap superstar as well.
As the destruction of their draw is not profitable enough.
As they have nuffin to largely tear down culturally to reduce their draw.
Plus do not rap well enough skillwise.
to hold the listeners attention long enough to make them a star.

Nowadays,...all rap artist are disconnected from the culture.
Even the underground ones,...
Not to mention, they do not actually rap well.
Plus they lean on the rnb model as their pop drawing model and selling point.
Which already takes the spotlight and ability to draw from the rap artist.
As it confuses the fan base as to what you really are.
They do not know if you are supposed to be edgy or safe.
So, they have no interest in your starpower.
As you are coming to the dance looking like a safe rnb artist who raps.
When rap innately is marketed as completely juxtaposed in feral scope from rnb.
Yet, when you put the two together.
It confused your potential fanbase from distinctly knowing or caring about the actual rap artist.

This has also been pretty much proven since the old school way of thought with the force mc's turned force md's.
As making and branding yourself partly a real singing act.
Through actually singing or feature.
Has always limited your appeal and stardom as an actual rapper.


Art Barr




Art Barr

And it's quite clear
My hardware was set ahead of most folks by ten years
The hand of God set it, so on Earth I speak prophetic
Publishin papers with no edit
I speak but most don't get it, but the few that do get it
In their minds my words stay embedded
And they blessed if they don't forget it
They'll never need a psychiatrist, a psychic or a medic
Where we headed? To the ultimate state of freedom
That's where I'll lead 'em, if you let it I'll free 'em
Let's set it, for human beings in recreation
Havin fun recreatin themselves into a nation
Hip-Hop! It's home could never be a station
Sharin a space with R&B, stop fakin
Do you know how much money they makin offa you and I
Just because hip-hop won't unify?

 

[FRIED MASON]

@ some of the posts in this thread...

There's some clown ass nikka on the first page talking about underground/backpack rap hurting mainstream Hip Hop legitimacy, holding mainstream rappers back...

We're surrounded by delusional ass nikka...

 

[McPiff]

Future?

 

[Diamond313]

I'm not from the US, so how is the impact of A$AP Rocky? I kind of get the feeling he's creeping towards that Drake-level of appeal...