Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Extra rendition? Drone bombings? Mass surveillance? Nah.
With 15 years of perspective can we all now agree Bill Clinton was a shytty President?
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The world changes way more frequently in even 4 years than it did the 90s and late 80s.
Even Bush didn't have to react to Twitter and Facebook etc.
1. Extraordinary Rendition? Name anyone taken post 2009.
2. I can't criticize drones more than F16/15/18/22/35's dropping those bombs.
3. Mass surveillance? You mean what snowden revealed? Its been known since the 80s.
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Also most overrated president of the 20th not named Reagan? I'm gonna stick with JFK on that one though.
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he was president for 12 years...and about to be 16Also most overrated president of the 20th? I'm gonna stick with JFK on that one though.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
He should be a Republican icon.
Clinton has gotten worse with time due to DOMA and the tougher on crime bill, but I'd still say is average.
Bush has gotten better mainly due to Medicare part D and the fact we eventually caught Bin Laden but still sucks.
Nah Reagan is top 5 and not overrated, neither is JFK.
Most overrated is FDR by a long shot.
Bush has gotten better mainly due to Medicare part D and the fact we eventually caught Bin Laden but still sucks.
Also most overrated president of the 20th not named Reagan? I'm gonna stick with JFK on that one though.
Nah Reagan is top 5 and not overrated, neither is JFK.
Most overrated is FDR by a long shot.
Mohammed Sindhi
a really simple admirer
When did america have a sane-minded president beyond the photogenic personal images?
Nixon pre-Watergate
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
-Repealed Glass-Steagall and signed the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, eliminating the barrier between commercial lending and proprietary lending, and rejecting regulation of derivatives.
-Signed that omnibus "tough on crime" bill that pushed for national 3 strikes laws and mandatory minimums including crack possession, rewarded states that took the most punitive measures with federal funds, provided billions for creating new prisons, created new capital crimes, etc. The prison population more than doubled in rate and more than doubled in number than it did under Reagan and Bush Sr. combined. Locked up more black men than any President in history.
-Responded to the embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya by bombing a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan based on bogus conjecture about it being used to manufactured chemical weapons for Al Qaeda, resulting in tens of thousands of deaths of Sudanese people. Didn't get Bin Laden or really do anything to Al Qaeda.
-Didn't get healthcare reform passed.
-Passed Newt Gingrich's Contract for America-derived racist ass welfare reform, which left entitlements to states, resulting in states with high black populations having the most stringent eligibility requirements and states with higher white people populations have least stringent eligibility requirements.
-for Bosnians, but did nothing while Rwanda drowned in blood.
-Bombed a Chinese embassy...by mistake...or so they say.
-Signed NAFTA.
-Helped move the Democratic party further to the right with his dikk Morris "triangulation" bullshyt.
Of course he said "oh my bad" about most of this shyt years later after the damage was already done.
The economic growth under his presidency and the surplus left were a result of Greenspan's artificially low interest rates, the dotcom boom and the asset bubbles they created anyway, not by him balancing the budget with tax increases and spending cuts.
As shytty of a President as Bush was, he takes a lot of heat because of the shyt handed too him by Clinton: namely the recession of the early 2000's and the surpluses evaporating that happened after the dotcom bubble burst and the financial collapse.
Obvious Bush's two wars and tax cuts for the rich were terrible policy, but they're not the reason by the surpluses turned to deficits, and the Clinton's deregulation of Wall Street directly led to the financial collapse. Bush was just too incompetent to do anything but make the pre-existing problems even worse.
2nd most overrated President of the 20th century next to Saint Ronnie.
No mention of him not stopping the Rwandan Genocide in 1994?
ill
Superstar
Glad you mentioned this. Most people are under the impression that Bush tanked the economy all on his own when really he was just picking up what Clinton left in the trash.
I'd also add the No Child Left Behind program to the list. Utter failure and paved the way for the current nonsense in education.
ill
Superstar
No mention of him not stopping the Rwandan Genocide in 1994?
for Bosnians, but did nothing while Rwanda drowned in blood.
Read better breh
