Women...How do you feel about "Dating Down"?

Ezekiel 25:17

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I know all group of women say this bullshyt

but sisters stay with this whole dating down or dating someone on my level.. which 90% of it comes from the salary they earn

it’s funny because listening to Kevin Samuels the other week when he broke down the average salary a black woman make is $36,000 a year and majority of sisters make less than $60,000 a year .. so all this dating down or on my level bullshyt, is something to make them feel good about themselves and to let white people and Oprah types think black men isn’t doing shyt..

u got chicks that are social workers or customers service reps making $45,000 a year still talking about they need a man on they level educational and financial wise:francis:


I don't even know why y'all keep debating this. Everywhere you go the couples are on the same level.
 

Ezekiel 25:17

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What is dating "Down" exactly? Does a person's character factor in this?

Katina making 6 figures links up with Brandon whose been working for UPS for 11 years, makes about 58K.

However, he reads, keeps up on current events, takes his granny to all of her appointments, volunteers as a mentor at the nearby youth center, etc.....

Yet he still doesn't fit the profile for them...

Its all about money.
Character is secondary.
When they say dating down they talkin bout money and status. Cream.

it’s crazy isn’t it

because it’s all about money

Brandon debt could be all paid up except for say student loans and that’s not good enough

however Keith can be making $98,000 a year, 2 car notes, student loan, 2 credit cards with owing $20,000 on them and other expenses but he’s on her level because she heard $98,000

This should be classified as retardation. A bunch of retarded women:mjlol:

Men, raise y'all daughters PLEASE:picard:
 

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No.... that's still settling.

Did you want the Honda?
NO.

So you're settling... Doesn't matter the reason why you are settling...
It's still settling...

That's why relationships are bullshyt... Everyone is settling...
If he could get a Beyonce or if she could get a (insert whoever bytches think is the attractive dude now)...
Then they would.

But they can't... So they get what they can....

But if an opportunity arises for the person with the Honda to get the Lamborghini...
Then that Honda would be passed off to the next muthafuka in a heart beat
To settle comes with the assumption that you deserve what you want, have the ability to get it, but couldn't get it for some reason. If you had Lamborghini money, but it was out of stock and you needed a Honda, that's settling. But if you couldn't afford it in the first place you didn't settle, you got what you could afford. Most of these women talking about settling are average women who believe they deserve a high value man, but have to settle for an average man. That's not settling at all.
 
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Hey.... I'ma ask both of y'all this question... Because you guys are coming at it from different perspectives...
And are having a serious conversation...


Why is "having a woman" a thing ...?
Like if you got your shyt together, like treblemaker is saying...
There is no need to have like a real girlfriend or wife.

So why is it that people are always telling men to get a woman.

There's another thread with the same question but it's getting derailed badly...

What added value does a woman bring to a man that has his shyt together????

Its completely unnecessary unless you desire children. Children are the only reason any man would do that. I am not convinced of this soul mate true love nonsense though I would like to have my mind changed. :mjgrin:
If you desire children then the responsible thing to do if you can is to establish the holy grail.
2 parent household.
aka marriage.

The Effects of Family Structure on Children
1. A solid, intact family structure can have a significantly positive impact on a child’s present and future wellbeing and offers countless benefits for both adults and children.

2. Children growing up in homes where two parents who have been married continuously are less likely to experience a wide range of problems (academic, social, emotional, cognitive), not only in childhood but later on in adulthood as well (Amato; Howard & Reeves,).

3. In two parent families, for example, children typically have access to more of the economic and community resources because parents are able to pool their time, money and energy; children tend to be more of the focus of the home.

4. Family intactness has also been shown to have a consistently positive influence on earnings for prime-age males and is one of the most important factors (or shared the place of greatest importance) for females and children in determining an area’s dependence on welfare programs that targets poverty.

5. Research also shows that family intactness has a beneficial influence on reducing out of wedlock births, increasing high school and college graduation rates, and even has long-term benefits such as higher employment rates.

6. Children living with married parents are more often involved in community activities such as soccer or other sports, take part in academic pursuits in local schools and other academic institutions that can lead to college, and eventually, a career.

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7. Family intactness increases high school and college graduation rates, as well as high employment rates

8. Overall, intact families tend to be more stable; parents tend to be more involved in their children’s lives and are more highly invested in their children’s success.

9. Fathers of intact families spend, on average, more time with their children. They also enjoy greater family cohesion than peers with adopted children or stepchildren (Lansford, et al.). In summary, children living with both biological parents in a low-conflict marriage tend to do better on a host of outcomes than those living in step-parent families.

10. Children living with both biological parents are 20 to 35 percent more physically healthy than children from broken homes (Dawson).

11. Research shows that family structure is related to preschool children’s cognitive development skills. For example, a study by Kinard and Reinherz found that children from two parent homes had higher scores on verbal reasoning than those from single parent homes.

12. A study by Ginther and Pollack found that children growing up in intact families (traditional nuclear families) were more likely to graduate from high school and complete college compared to those who were raised in blended or single-parent homes.

13. Manning and Lamb found that adolescents in intact families had higher levels of academic achievement and were less likely to exhibit problem behaviors in school compared to peers living in homes where single mothers lived alone or with a cohabiting partner.

14. Following divorce, children are 50 percent more likely to develop health problems than two parent families.

15. In homes with stepfathers, peers were more likely to have been suspended or expelled from school, more likely to have engaged in delinquent behavior, to have problems getting along with teachers, doing homework, paying attention in school, and have lower grade point averages than those living in intact homes.

16. Children of divorce are at a greater risk of experiencing injury, headaches, speech defects, and other health concerns than children whose parents have remained married (Dawson).

17. Clearly, children do best in a stable family environment where well-adjusted parents have established consistent routines for the home. On the other hand, an environment of turmoil where continual conflict, multiple school or parental employment changes are linked to lower levels of child well-being (Teachman)

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18. Being raised in a married family reduced a child’s probability of living in poverty by about 82 percent.


19. The decline in two parent families has accounted for the three-fold increase in single parent homes, most often headed by single moms.

20. According to Pew Research, over half (57 percent) of those living with married parents were in households with incomes at least 200% above the poverty line, compared with just 21 percent of those living in single-parent households.

21. According to the U.S. Census, the poverty rate for single parents with children in the United States in 2009 was 37.1 percent. The rate for married couples with children was 6.8 percent. Rector called marriage one of the greatest weapons against child poverty.
 

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I don't even get this whole "dating down". You can gasp go into work today and lose your job or gasp get a promotion.I went from November 28th, 2021 making 40 k less to November 29,2021 making 40k more.

People should just be happy with someone who treats you well, doesn't cheat or abuse, earns a honest living and you both love each other.

Came in this thread to say something of a similar nature.

It is displaying the level of arrogance that permeates society these days. People just shamelessly admitting to looking down on others.
 

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There is no such thing as dating down, you attract what you qualify for.:manny: Some one that wants a Lamborghini Gallardo but can only afford a Honda Accord isn't settling, that's all they can afford. :mjlol:

This.

You have to have an option between two or more choices to settle. If you only have one option or it's the best available option, it's not settling. It's the best you can do :lolbron:
 

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Hey.... I'ma ask both of y'all this question... Because you guys are coming at it from different perspectives...
And are having a serious conversation...


Why is "having a woman" a thing ...?
Like if you got your shyt together, like treblemaker is saying...
There is no need to have like a real girlfriend or wife.

So why is it that people are always telling men to get a woman.

There's another thread with the same question but it's getting derailed badly...

What added value does a woman bring to a man that has his shyt together????

It's a couple of reasons.

- if you genuinely care about putting your children in the best position to win then having a wife is one of the best ways to reduce the likelihood they don't end up a stereotypical black statistic.

- if you care about building a strong black community then a strong black family is one of the best ways to do so

- Let's say you don't give a shxt about any of that and you only want to climb the ladder either corporate or entrepreneurially* having a significant other helps ALOT.

Being a playboy looks good to other men you have to do business with in your 20s, in your 30s and beyond it just looks like instability. Alot of networking happens at family type events, alot of business inroads happen on couples vacations and retreats and double dating. When your lady can connect with his lady it will keep the men tied together, which allow you to make inroads with him. Your ability to connect with other married men (which most high earners are) is enhanced because you are also married.

I've seen it with my own eyes. Being married/in a long term relationship signals to other men that you are straight, attractive to the opposite sex (on some level) responsible, have command of your house, a leader, and stable.

Being unattached after a certain age looks sus in the business world.
 

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it's interesting that women have made more and more money and getting closer and closer to wage-equality, but alot of women still want a man to make more than them when it comes to relationships. difficult tightrope to walk.
 

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it's interesting that women have made more and more money and getting closer and closer to wage-equality, but alot of women still want a man to make more than them when it comes to relationships. difficult tightrope to walk.

t's just money, like I said for me I got a promotion around 40k more, so the day before my promotion I wouldn't be good enough for a specific broad, but the next day because I'm making 40k more a year suddenly I'm a catch to this specific broad?

Like literally nothing changed about me, looking the same, wearing the same clothes, driving the same car, living at the same place, spending the exact same I did before but before she'd be "dating down" but now she isn't :mjlol:
 

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It's a couple of reasons.

- if you genuinely care about putting your children in the best position to win then having a wife is one of the best ways to reduce the likelihood they don't end up a stereotypical black statistic.

- if you care about building a strong black community then a strong black family is one of the best ways to do so

- Let's say you don't give a shxt about any of that and you only want to climb the ladder either corporate or entrepreneurially* having a significant other helps ALOT.

Being a playboy looks good to other men you have to do business with in your 20s, in your 30s and beyond it just looks like instability. Alot of networking happens at family type events, alot of business inroads happen on couples vacations and retreats and double dating. When your lady can connect with his lady it will keep the men tied together, which allow you to make inroads with him. Your ability to connect with other married men (which most high earners are) is enhanced because you are also married.

I've seen it with my own eyes. Being married/in a long term relationship signals to other men that you are straight, attractive to the opposite sex (on some level) responsible, have command of your house, a leader, and stable.

Being unattached after a certain age looks sus in the business world.
A lot of real shyt in this post. It's some truth to this...whether or not folks want to admit.
 

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Dating down to me means dating someone I’m incompatible with, JUST to be able to say I’ve got somebody.
It would make me miserable.
So I don’t recommend anyone should date below their reasonable threshold of what they value in a relationship…and then spend 40+ years stressing out the partners they didn’t even want or desire in the first place.
 
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