Women...How do you feel about "Dating Down"?

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See the way I look at is even if we are at a comparable earning level I'm still on a higher level and that's because I'm more rare. Getting a pretty woman that makes good money and has her shxt together aint difficult, but getting a man that brings everything I bring to the table beyond just my wallet is. She's aware of that even without me saying it.

I mean, a lot of brehs are looking for a woman that is basically a domestic employee they can fuk, but those guys are often also too broke to cover all the bills.

I dont want a basic bxtch just because she can cook and clean, I can literally do that myself or hire someone to do it on a weekly basis. It doesn't take much for me to fukk so I don't put pu$$y on a pedestal and sex isn't really bringing shxt to the table. A girl being pretty doesn't really move me because there are literally millions of pretty women out there.

Most guys are just looking to get by when it comes to a woman. I want more than that.
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See the way I look at is even if we are at a comparable earning level I'm still on a higher level and that's because I'm more rare. Getting a pretty woman that makes good money and has her shxt together aint difficult, but getting a man that brings everything I bring to the table beyond just my wallet is. She's aware of that even without me saying it.

I mean, a lot of brehs are looking for a woman that is basically a domestic employee they can fuk, but those guys are often also too broke to cover all the bills.

I dont want a basic bxtch just because she can cook and clean, I can literally do that myself or hire someone to do it on a weekly basis. It doesn't take much for me to fukk so I don't put pu$$y on a pedestal and sex isn't really bringing shxt to the table. A girl being pretty doesn't really move me because there are literally millions of pretty women out there.

Most guys are just looking to get by when it comes to a woman. I want more than that.
Breh I've switched over to this mindset and my dating life has become so much more peaceful. I used to just chase pu$$y regardless of how the chic situation was and i put myself in some sketchy situations. But as I got out of that mode I realized that most of theses chics are really doing bad out here even the ones that make it look like they're living lavish on social media. Like alot of them are one bad day away from visiting the pay day loan place. But it is a numbers game there are more decent females out there than a solid breh that's on his square. I use that to my leverage and tell chics now that honestly you're not worth me dealing with especially if I have to elevate you up to my lifestyle that I grinded for.
 

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It's a couple of reasons.

- if you genuinely care about putting your children in the best position to win then having a wife is one of the best ways to reduce the likelihood they don't end up a stereotypical black statistic.

- if you care about building a strong black community then a strong black family is one of the best ways to do so

- Let's say you don't give a shxt about any of that and you only want to climb the ladder either corporate or entrepreneurially* having a significant other helps ALOT.

Being a playboy looks good to other men you have to do business with in your 20s, in your 30s and beyond it just looks like instability. Alot of networking happens at family type events, alot of business inroads happen on couples vacations and retreats and double dating. When your lady can connect with his lady it will keep the men tied together, which allow you to make inroads with him. Your ability to connect with other married men (which most high earners are) is enhanced because you are also married.

I've seen it with my own eyes. Being married/in a long term relationship signals to other men that you are straight, attractive to the opposite sex (on some level) responsible, have command of your house, a leader, and stable.

Being unattached after a certain age looks sus in the business world.

The main issue with alot of the things you're saying in the beginning is none of those things really have anything to do with the man, himself.
Like it doesn't really benefit him.

The kids, the community, the woman...

It feels like as a man, we were just put here to sacrifice our lives and happiness for everyone else.

The truth is those kids only care when you're doing things for them.
That woman only cares if you can do things for her....
And they community could care less.

What does a man truly want?
For real... Take away all the shyt that other people think about what a man should want .
And be honest with yourself

WANT DOES A MAN REALLY WANT?

When I get into these convos... It's always
"Find a good woman and settle down VS Playboy/wildlife"

But that's not the only options.
And because men are brainwashed into thinking their life is for other people...
And are ashamed to be honest and say...
"I like fukking different woman sometimes"
"I like being by myself alot"
"I don't want to have to deal with a woman's bullshyt"
"fukk them Kids" lol

Once you get through the brainwashing, you realize there are more options than just Married and Playboy...

The crazy thing is I always tell my nikkaz "y'all nikkaz are playing checkers. Women are out here playing chess"

Because women got out of the brainwashing that society, their grandma's and mother's gave them...
And the finally said out loud what they want and what they don't want...
And there are unashamed and unafraid of how it looks now.

They're divorcing nikkaz at higher rates... fukking whoever they feel like.
Twerking whenever they feel like... Etc ...with no fukks given
And men are mad at them, but women are just showing their true colors...

Only men are still stuck in that old patriarchal, hoping to find a good wife and staying stuck in a miserable situation, until the kids are grown...

We gotta start playing Chess too
 

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For some reason a lot of women live in an alternate reality where even though they work as a CSR making 45k they...


* Lease a foreign with a co-signer

* Stay in a nice apartment off the strength of male assistance (child's father, simp, ect.)

* Used their tax money to get a BBL


...so in their minds (and on IG) they're a 6 figure bad bytch who looks at the 9-5 brother making 70k as a peon.


It's wild how a woman's mind can work...:wow:
Its trick poisoning. Enough simps, tricks in the inbox and believable ho cap will give a woman enough mental poisoning that she develops Cinderella syndrome. They think if they wait around long enough, Tupac in a business suit will show up and sweep them away into a life of luxury.
 

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To settle comes with the assumption that you deserve what you want, have the ability to get it, but couldn't get it for some reason. If you had Lamborghini money, but it was out of stock and you needed a Honda, that's settling. But if you couldn't afford it in the first place you didn't settle, you got what you could afford. Most of these women talking about settling are average women who believe they deserve a high value man, but have to settle for an average man. That's not settling at all.

NOPE!

And real talk... That's a person who settles type of mentality... No disrespect.

If u didn't have the money for the lambo.... So u had to get the Honda..
You know that you're settling and it's fine... But you gonna go do what u gotta do to eventually get that lambo...

People try to front like they not settling because think they didn't have the means or the ability to get what they really want...
That's a weak mentality...

Let's use actual people and not cars...

If I got wants to be with Beyonce or saweetie or some equivalent to that. But he feels like he ain't got the look or money or whatever to get that type...
But he just gets a girl that he knows from school or work...

HE IS SETTLING
Even after setting...If he doesn't ever try to do things to put himself in a position to ever be with a Beyonce or saweetie...
Then he will forever be in a state of settling...

And this is the life of 95% of people
 

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I can't blame women who don't want to date down. I certainly don't anymore.

Been there, done that.

Who wants to be with someone that aint got they shxt together? I don't want to be introducing someone to a lifestyle she can't maintain herself, or waiting for her to save up for a vacation so we can go together, or having to inspire her so she can achieve more in life.

Some guys are okay with pulling a woman up to their level, I'm not on that wave anymore. I'm not on that fixer upper shxt, she needs to come ready made.

"Down" automatically means "Broke, in debt, 3 baby mommas, SSI, etc, etc"

Women making $150,000 don't wanna date a dude making less than $90,000 despite that being twice the average salary of black men.

I don't have a problem with it, either. Just the conversation gets to these shytty places, where "less than" a woman is bum status.
 

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NOPE!

And real talk... That's a person who settles type of mentality... No disrespect.

If u didn't have the money for the lambo.... So u had to get the Honda..
You know that you're settling and it's fine... But you gonna go do what u gotta do to eventually get that lambo...

People try to front like they not settling because think they didn't have the means or the ability to get what they really want...
That's a weak mentality...

Let's use actual people and not cars...

If I got wants to be with Beyonce or saweetie or some equivalent to that. But he feels like he ain't got the look or money or whatever to get that type...
But he just gets a girl that he knows from school or work...

HE IS SETTLING
Even after setting...If he doesn't ever try to do things to put himself in a position to ever be with a Beyonce or saweetie...
Then he will forever be in a state of settling...

And this is the life of 95% of people

There's nothing wrong with working to get what you want, but at some point you have to be realistic. Not every kid is going to make it to the NBA, doesn't mean they can't find a fulfilling career elsewhere. You're mentality is partly why the black community is broken, you have a bunch of delusional people chasing a fantasy all the while overlooking people who could have been amazing for them.
 

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What is dating "Down" exactly? Does a person's character factor in this?

Katina making 6 figures links up with Brandon whose been working for UPS for 11 years, makes about 58K.

However, he reads, keeps up on current events, takes his granny to all of her appointments, volunteers as a mentor at the nearby youth center, etc.....

Yet he still doesn't fit the profile for them...
Some or even most women of this particular generation have a misconstrued definition of dating down and equate monetary wealth to quality over character, morals, goals. They'll even stoop as low as to fukking an ugly outta shape nikka making 6 figures or zaddys as a come up.

In essence, women that think or operate like that are the ones we over value in their opinion and date down to appease and entertain. Those women are called prostitutes and we're literally living in a generation we're both men and women are prostitutes and tricks and the essence of dating is gone.
 

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There's nothing wrong with working to get what you want, but at some point you have to be realistic. Not every kid is going to make it to the NBA, doesn't mean they can't find a fulfilling career elsewhere. You're mentality is partly why the black community is broken, you have a bunch of delusional people chasing a fantasy all the while overlooking people who could have been amazing for them.


I feel you...
But if you told people
"Nah, man...be realistic... It ain't goin to happen"
You'll never see some of the greatest things that people have accomplished....

But I get it .

Because if it wasn't for the majority, which is people with your mindset...

Then there would be no minority of people who set out and do great things because they didn't settle

And I've literally seen this type of shyt all my life...

There are some people who rather go after what they really want in life... And risk the possibility of failing miserably...
But it would hurt worse if they never tried, settled for mediocre, and average... And everyday wonder what could have been
 

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Let's use actual people and not cars...

If I got wants to be with Beyonce or saweetie or some equivalent to that. But he feels like he ain't got the look or money or whatever to get that type...
But he just gets a girl that he knows from school or work...

HE IS SETTLING
Even after setting...If he doesn't ever try to do things to put himself in a position to ever be with a Beyonce or saweetie...
Then he will forever be in a state of settling...

And this is the life of 95% of people

Your take on settling is correct by definition but I still have to disagree.

I'll use jobs instead of people to explain the other brehs point of view.

You get 3 job offers for 100k, 60k and 40k. You take the 100k job which was the best offer you had. A year down the road you can't walk around saying you settled for the 100k job when it was the best you could get.

If you chose the 60k or 40k job, then you can say you settled because you had an offer for something better but declined it.

Everyone would love to be paid 1 million but not everyone has the means to get a 1 million dollar job or run a business that makes that. So we can't be walking around talking bout we settled for 100k when we know damn well we couldn't do better even if we feel we deserve 1 million.

Why would anyone pass on a better offer to settle for less if they had an option for something better? These people out here are not settling, they're taking the best they can get.
 

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Your take on settling is correct by definition but I still have to disagree.

I'll use jobs instead of people to explain the other brehs point of view.

You get 3 job offers for 100k, 60k and 40k. You take the 100k job which was the best offer you had. A year down the road you can't walk around saying you settled for the 100k job when it was the best you could get.

If you chose the 60k or 40k job, then you can say you settled because you had an offer for something better but declined it.

Everyone would love to be paid 1 million but not everyone has the means to get a 1 million dollar job or run a business that makes that. So we can't be walking around talking bout we settled for 100k when we know damn well we couldn't do better even if we feel we deserve 1 million.

Why would anyone pass on a better offer to settle for less if they had an option for something better? These people out here are not settling, they're taking the best they can get.

Gotcha,...

First... In your scenario...
If you had offers for jobs paying 100k, 60k and 40...
But you really wanted another job paying 200k...
You're settling if you're taking the 100k.

No matter if the 200k job wasn't the job being offered...
If you wanted it and didn't go get it....but chose the highest paid job you was offered (the 100k job) then you are settling and....
Thats where misery starts for the 5% of the population that has big dreams

That was a good analogy tho...
Cause most dudes are settling for the best thing that presents itself in life, when it comes to women....
Instead putting themselves in positions to get the women they really want.

So to sum it up ....

This is what you really want verses what options you have ...

Some people are cool with just the options..
And some people go get what they want...

Do you realize that options being presented is a way to control people to settle in life?

I'll give you an example...

With kids...

You say...
" I'll give you guys a choice... You can have chicken nuggets, frozen pizza, or hot pockets"
You make them feel like they have opinions but you controlled the choices so they have to settle for the things you don't mind cooking real quick...

What if one of those little b*stards said ..
"I want homemade chicken Alfredo"... "That's what I want and I don't want nothing else"
 

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I feel you...
But if you told people
"Nah, man...be realistic... It ain't goin to happen"
You'll never see some of the greatest things that people have accomplished....

But I get it .

Because if it wasn't for the majority, which is people with your mindset...

Then there would be no minority of people who set out and do great things because they didn't settle

And I've literally seen this type of shyt all my life...

There are some people who rather go after what they really want in life... And risk the possibility of failing miserably...
But it would hurt worse if they never tried, settled for mediocre, and average... And everyday wonder what could have been
You should always try, work hard and risk failure , I'm not against that at all. Just saying, if you're 5'5, constantly throwing bricks despite you're best effort, couldn't make varsity team, is NBA really in your cards?:manny: At some point you're lying to them by saying they're gonna make it. It's the same with dating.
 
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