Would ROOKIE Michael Jordan be the best player today?

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I'm not here to argue that Lebron is better than MJ.
But if someone did that...I would understand.
It's unpopular for a reason. It's not a discussion that anyone who actually saw prime Mike would take seriously. I'm a Lebron fan but he's a clear notch below Mike. It's not really close. A prime Mike would be even better in this league than he was in his.
 

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It's unpopular for a reason. It's not a discussion that anyone who actually saw prime Mike would take seriously. I'm a Lebron fan but he's a clear notch below Mike. It's not really close. A prime Mike would be even better in this league than he was in his.
I'll put it this way....

For a long time, Kobe Bryant was considered the closest thing to Michael Jordan.
It's probably fair to say that Lebron James has surpassed Kobe Bryant as a greater player.

So if it was okay to compare Kobe and Michael, it's certainly fair to add Lebron James to that conversation.

We can't go the rest of our lives acting like it's sacrilegious that someone might be as great or better than MJ.
 
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How many of Jordans 6 rings came against as good as last years 73 win warriors?

:francis:You can't make this argument. The Warriors won 73 games in todays NBA. The Warriors weren't all time good either. They were no better than those mid 2000 suns teams. Matter fact those suns teams were better. :yeshrug: And if the Warriors had to go up against a prime Spurs team they wouldn't make it to the Finals either.

And I'm sorry, this CLE team that just won ain't a BAD team breh :mjlol:

Not when the Teams second option just Averaged 30 points and carried the team at most of the critical moments during the series.
 

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I'll put it this way....

For a long time, Kobe Bryant was considered the closest thing to Michael Jordan.
It's probably fair to say that Lebron James has surpassed Kobe Bryant as a greater player.

So if it was okay to compare Kobe and Michael, it's certainly fair to add Lebron James to that conversation.

We can't go the rest of our lives acting like it's sacrilegious that someone might be as great or better than MJ.
This is all empty talk. Kobe was never as good as Mike and neither is Lebron. That has nothing to do with acting like it's sacrilegious to think that someone might be better than Mike. If someone comes along who's actually just as good or better then that will be what it is. That's not the case tho. It's just inaccurate to say that Kobe or Lebron are just as good.

The same way that Mike is a notch above Lebron, I think that Lebron is a notch above Kobe.
 

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:francis:You can't make this argument. The Warriors won 73 games in todays NBA. The Warriors weren't all time good either. They were no better than those mid 2000 suns teams. Matter fact those suns teams were better. :yeshrug: And if the Warriors had to go up against a prime Spurs team they wouldn't make it to the Finals either.

And I'm sorry, this CLE team that just won ain't a BAD team breh :mjlol:

Not when the Teams second option just Averaged 30 points and carried the team at most of the critical moments during the series.
GTFO. There's a difference between not finishing and them not being an ATG team. Just stop. The dominance they showed was unprecedented, and against better teams than that Bulls team faced. 2016 OKC and Spurs were better than any teams from that 72-win bull season.

Also, I'll never understand why Jordan stans don't get a bad rap. It's like it's safe to talk about Bron and Kobe stans but you Jordan stans are the WOAT. Especially seeing that his resume speaks for itself so y'all don't have to go as hard as y'all do. Y'all made insecure :heh:
 

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This is all empty talk. Kobe was never as good as Mike and neither is Lebron. That has nothing to do with acting like it's sacrilegious to think that someone might be better than Mike. If someone comes along who's actually just as good or better then that will be what it is. That's not the case tho. It's just inaccurate to say that Kobe or Lebron are just as good.

The same way that Mike is a notch above Lebron, I think that Lebron is a notch above Kobe.
The point is, did you feel it was insulting that Kobe was discussed as being in the neighborhood of greatness as Michael Jordan?
 
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This is all empty talk. Kobe was never as good as Mike and neither is Lebron. That has nothing to do with acting like it's sacrilegious to think that someone might be better than Mike. If someone comes along who's actually just as good or better then that will be what it is. That's not the case tho. It's just inaccurate to say that Kobe or Lebron are just as good.

The same way that Mike is a notch above Lebron, I think that Lebron is a notch above Kobe.

I don't agree with your Kobe assessment sir. Mike is a Notch above both tho.

Thing is I've seen Kobe have BIG games against good teams in the playoffs. It just always happened in the WCF. He may be the best Conference finals player of all time actually. He was just never able to duplicate this performance in the finals(although he was a good finals performer)

I think MJ is what you get when you combine Lebron's athletic ability with Kobe's Skill. I don't think MJ is more skilled than Kobe, or more athletic than Bron, but he has both. Whereas Kobe isn't near Bron's Athletic ability (although he was a great athlete), and Lebron does not possess Kobe's skill.
 

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as I said...the nostalgia factory is churning out their product

What always amuses me tho is if some of you feel that somebody is better than jordan( and at this point I am tired of that convo because Jordan has been retired for years,,,get over it Jesus Christ)...whether it be Lebron, Kobe, Kareem, Magic, Bird...there are reasonable legit arguments that can be had

Only sycophants will have you believe there is not.......and lol even I will be attacked for saying that....I can feel people foaming at the mouth behind their keyboards
 
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GTFO. There's a difference between not finishing and them not being an ATG team. Just stop. The dominance they showed was unprecedented, and against better teams than that Bulls team faced. 2016 OKC and Spurs were better than any teams from that 72-win bull season.

Also, I'll never understand why Jordan stans don't get a bad rap. It's like it's safe to talk about Bron and Kobe stans but you Jordan stans are the WOAT. Especially seeing that his resume speaks for itself so y'all don't have to go as hard as y'all do. Y'all made insecure :heh:

:martin:You jackass. The point is this CLE team wasn't a bad team that Bron had to carry.
 

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You'd think his stans would be objective and knowledgable about the game watching such a smart player do his thing for so long, but most of them are dumb af and don't know anything about basketball.

This is a universal thing too. Both online and offline. Barbershops and Bars.

The attachment a lot of these :flabbynsick: dudes have to him his wild :mjpls:

To be clear, he IS the Goat. But the levels people go to defend a resume that does NOT need to be defended is insane.

I remember grown ass men barking on me in a barber shop when I was 12 because I said that Bron had the potential to be as good as him :wow:

Not even saying he was better, just that the potential was there :mjpls:

You woulda thought I put bleach in the prune juice supply or something :wow:

Why they feel the need to completely discredit the accomplishments of other players to give credit to a legacy that is already the greatest legacy of all time is beyond me :mjpls:

They are far worse than Kobe stans and Bron stans.

Shame such a smart, versatile, godly player has a stanbase as stupid as The Jorstans :mjpls:
 
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