"Wrestling Fans" Need To Blame Themselves For The State Of The Industry

[Wacky D]

1. people were shytting on Nash in 2011 when he came back to WWE

And the main complaint about wrestlemania 32 was the old wrestlers doing what they did.


2. This was the no.2 north american pro wrestling company for a decade, not a warehouse job

Hogan was getting 35,000 per appearance. Sting was getting $500k annually, Angle was getting $600k. The money was there, and Spike was even helping with talent salaries. Dixie was just reckless.

nash is always an automatic target. that's a chitty example and you know it.

why does hulk Hogan automatically morph into a 28 year old in the eyes of WWE fans whenever he makes a big return to a WWF ring? but YEARS prior to that, he was supposedly 68 years old in wcw?
why do people want to see undertaker vs sting? knowing dam well if that match happened at "bound for glory", they would no-sell it and talk about how old they are.
I could go on & on. triple h won the dam royal rumble and headlined wrestlemania. a guy who wasn't even all that thru most of his prime, dam near 2 decades ago.
chris Jericho gets props on here everyday. hes clearly washed.
theyre still centering shows around the McMahon family? stop it slime.

all that money youre listing at the end. at some point, all that chit is gona stop if the fans don't support.

 

[Wacky D]

And people here really said that he makes good points?

He can't even keep his lies straight.

youre adding absolutely nothing to the thread.

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

 

[Mook]

nah. yall just watch too much WWE.
its customary for big names to get a big push when they sign to a different company. vince is the only one that goes out of his way to bury stars that he didn't create.

while I do think that they had a habit of pushing AJ too far towards the back of the bus at times, I didnt mind him going stretches without being in the main event either, as long as they still had other TNA-associated names in the main event scene.

as for paul heyman, he wanted too much. f*ck that. let him stay looking stupid working for the WWE. he wouldn't have made that much of a difference in TNA.

Not true at all. Paul wanted like 30% equity and complete booking. This is absolutely a perfect deal and TNA should have taken it.

This was the opportunity of a lifetime Paul brings too much to turn him down. His name alone woulda got the stupid WWE fanboys to atleast give it a chance when he came on and Pauls never been bad with storylines.

 

[Silkk]

nash is always an automatic target. that's a chitty example and you know it.

why does hulk Hogan automatically morph into a 28 year old in the eyes of WWE fans whenever he makes a big return to a WWF ring? but YEARS prior to that, he was supposedly 68 years old in wcw?
why do people want to see undertaker vs sting? knowing dam well if that match happened at "bound for glory", they would no-sell it and talk about how old they are.
I could go on & on. triple h won the dam royal rumble and headlined wrestlemania. a guy who wasn't even all that thru most of his prime, dam near 2 decades ago.
chris Jericho gets props on here everyday. hes clearly washed.
theyre still centering shows around the McMahon family? stop it slime.

all that money youre listing at the end. at some point, all that chit is gona stop if the fans don't support.

TSC goes at HHH, Taker, Sting, Jericho, Big Show, Kane, and every other old head. These didn't just appear out of thin air

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

How?

Did you see the numbers WM32 just did? And the network has 1.8 milion subscribers.

i meant from a creative / quality standpoint.

 

[Silkk]

i meant from a creative / quality standpoint.

It's the best it's in a long while, and I was the main one leading the "fukk Creative" bandwagon.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

It's the best it's in a long while, and I was the main one leading the "fukk Creative" bandwagon.

no point in us arguing i guess.

 

[Wacky D]

• TNA failing to push the next generation of wrestling talent & ideas when they had the opportunity: e.g. Latin American Exchange, AJ Styles, Jay Lethal, Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, Ultimate X and the X-Division, etc.

Let me factor in the lack of diversity in the North American wrestling industry. TNA refused to embrace the potential of Latino wrestling gimmick and the Latino audience, and they were afraid to pull the trigger on Black talent.

Ring of Honor has made an admirable attempt, but they are not yet in a position to change the North American wrestling audience.

- all of those wrestlers, the ultimate x, and the x-division were all at the forefront of TNA homie.(with the exception of a young jay lethal, who was still a major player in the x-division which was at the forefront).
- historically, TNA has had way more diversity than ROH. more black world champions, and black champs in general. more black stars and stables.

i'll say this, ROH currently has the blackest weekly wrestling show ive ever seen(not counting the black wrestling promotions, of course). but historically, TNA has still done more with black wrestlers. jay lethal is having a great run, but lets not act like he isn't just the 1st black ROH champ and probably just the 1st consistent black main eventer. TNA had black history moments since its inception. and ROH has been out longer than TNA.

 

[Wacky D]

OP doesn't give a fukk about the rest of the business. He's just mad that TNA dropped the ball and how that idiot Dixie Carter is running the company into the ground.

As @Silkk stated, many other promotions are building a solid foundation. TNA is one of the few ones that is declining and they only have themselves to blame. Wrestling fans have no problem with supporting non-WWE promotions.

youre a dikkhead.

I was on TSC from day one, before TNA existed. hell, even before that, when TSC was just a big-ass wrestling thread in the middle of the coliseum on SOHH. before your baby-soft ass probably was even allowed to listen to rap, let alone post on a rap forum.

I'm not saying anything that people on here havnt already seen me say YEARS AGO.

 

[Hoss]

I'm seeing a lot of posts like this where people agree with me but they really don't want to admit it all the way and find something to say at the end, that goes against my thread title.

If I agreed with you, I'd have no problem saying so, bruh. I have nothing against you.

If you had just said a certain segment of fans are contributing to the problem, I could get with that.

But you are saying that fans are to blame, which suggests that bad management is not to blame, or deserves less blame. Big difference, and I can't agree.

 

[Wacky D]

If they would have just focused on putting on a quality product they wouldn't be where they are now. Something is wrong when all your most popular original stars like Styles, Joe, Ares, and now Roode that were under contract less than 2-3 years ago are all now thriving in the WWE. I wanted Styles to remain in Japan and the indies and possibly return to TNA up until I saw him walk out on stage at Wrestlemania 32 in front of 90,000 plus people. Dude was loyal to Dixie and got bs around but now he's wrestling in front of thousands of people every week and is wrestling for the championship less than four months of being with the company. I'm happy for Styles

how are Austin aries & Robert roode thriving in the WWE?

Austin aries hasn't done anything worth talking about yet, and Robert roode hasn't even debuted yet.
and I'm not gonna sit up here and celebrate samoa joe winning the WWE's developmental center belt in an un-televised match, for a show that's not even on television.

only one thriving is aj styles and that's because he negotiated that push.

 

[Wacky D]

If I agreed with you, I'd have no problem saying so, bruh. I have nothing against you.

If you had just said a certain segment of fans are contributing to the problem, I could get with that.

But you are saying that fans are to blame, which suggests that bad management is not to blame, or deserves less blame. Big difference, and I can't agree.

I see what youre trying to say, but at the end of the day, bad management aren't the people on TV. especially when TNA was in its prime, and people weren't supporting.

theres really nowhere to go but down after that. regardless of how good or bad management is.

 

[Wacky D]

how is this arguing homie's post?

all you did was a youtube search of TNA videos.

and people dapped it up like you were saying something. smh. that's "wrestling fans" for ya.

 

[TheGodling]

Entitlement? No one likes to have someone forced on them. It started with Cena and it is continuing with Reigns.

And these same "entitled" fans are the same ones continuing to buy merchandise, attend the shows, and talk about wrestling on the internet.

The worst types of fans are those who complain about EVERYTHING and never have a positive thing to say (*cough* @Kill Dat Noize *cough*) and the hipster wrestling fans who call everyone marks and basically mock people for actually giving a damn about wrestling (I shouldn't even have to mention names for this one).

It's entitlement because the very foundation of wrestling is someone books who wins and loses the matches, except now fans feel that if the booking isn't precisely as how they demand it, the product is at fault. And again, it's that entitlement that hurts the industry too because all they do is complain about how much wrestling sucks, and then wonder why nobody bothers to watch wrestling anymore as they continue to tell everyone wrestling sucks.