Wu Block Lost....

[JulesWinfield]

That was for Big Doe Rehap, which was the last album Ghost put any effort into. And even that featured minor promotion on his part, I don't remember it having a memorable video, etc.

Ghost literally told HipHopDX that he threw his last album (Apollo Kids) together as a mixtape, then when the label asked him for an album he threw it at them. Pocketed the check, no promotion, one video for a song no one checked for, etc.

actually if i remember correctly it was for fishscale.

 

[Piff Perkins]

actually if i remember correctly it was for fishscale.

oh word?

Below is probably my favorite artist-to-fan YouTube video ever: It’s Ghostface complaining about how while he has 115,000 “friends” on MySpace, Big Doe Rehab only sold like 30,000 copies. It’s a pretty unintentionally funny clip, because Ghost fundamentally doesn’t understand what MySpace friends actually are: People became friends with celebrities on there because it was like showing off a digital collection of celebrity baseball cards. Adding someone on MySpace isn’t a contract to buy any album that MySpace friend puts out; though I suspect that’s how Fall Out Boy sold so many records in the mid 2000s.

Vinyl In Alphabetical: 81. Ghostface Killah's 'Big Doe Rehab' (Andrew)

even the video description shows it was Big Doe Rehab. Fishscale sold 100k records and featured a hit song (the one with Neyo)

 

[Just like bruddas]

didn't even know this was out. They did a terrible job promoting it.

This

 

[JulesWinfield]

oh word?

Vinyl In Alphabetical: 81. Ghostface Killah's 'Big Doe Rehab' (Andrew)

even the video description shows it was Big Doe Rehab. Fishscale sold 100k records and featured a hit song (the one with Neyo)

i stand corrected. why you gotta get hostile about it though? plus 100k was still bad in '06. most rappers were still able to go gold no problem.

 

[Piff Perkins]

i stand corrected. why you gotta get hostile about it though? plus 100k was still bad in '06. most rappers were still able to go gold no problem.

Nah b it's all love, I was just waiting for a chance to use that gif. We straight my dude

100k wasn't great but imo it was good for Ghost at that point of his career. He wasn't a major name anymore unfortunately, but managed to sell some singles and get new fans with that Neyo song (which wasn't bad imo). Plus the album was critically acclaimed and won some awards.

I really liked Big Doe Rehab. Ghost's biggest problem was that the album has a whole lot of samples, so it was a rather expensive album to make due to sample clearances; then you sell 30k and are still in the hole. There are so many dope producers Ghost could deal with on the indie level without having to worry about most samples, especially if he hooked up with producers like Harry Fraud or Tommy Mas.

 

[JulesWinfield]

Nah b it's all love, I was just waiting for a chance to use that gif. We straight my dude

100k wasn't great but imo it was good for Ghost at that point of his career. He wasn't a major name anymore unfortunately, but managed to sell some singles and get new fans with that Neyo song (which wasn't bad imo). Plus the album was critically acclaimed and won some awards.

I really liked Big Doe Rehab. Ghost's biggest problem was that the album has a whole lot of samples, so it was a rather expensive album to make due to sample clearances; then you sell 30k and are still in the hole. There are so many dope producers Ghost could deal with on the indie level without having to worry about most samples, especially if he hooked up with producers like Harry Fraud or Tommy Mas.

you're right. the sample clearances definitely fukked him up on big doe rehab. plus we already saw that def jam didn't really give a fukk about promoting their older artists at the time (method man had similar issues with the promotion for 4:21). sadly, unless your name was ne-yo or rihanna def jam didn't really give a fukk about you back then. it's a shame because big doe rehab was the last really good ghost album in my opinion. he gave def jam two throwaways after that with ghostdeini and apollo kids (even though they both have their fair share of great tracks).

 

[Mowgli]

Alot of people dont even know this album came out.

 

[KILLAKUTT7]

copped the album also

album is flames but they def needed better promotion

8k is pretty bad

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Nobody fukk with Sheek... I told y'all

Nikka is trash!

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Nobody fukk with Sheek... I told y'all

Nikka is trash!

Sheek has the best solo discography of the lox members.

Jadakiss cant make an album to save his life and style ps albums are all mediocre at best.

 

[Balan]

Wu have been irrelevant for a minute. People dont give a fuk about them

Only rapper from their peer who has managed to stay relevant and maintain his longetivity is Jay Z

 

[prophecypro]

8,000 units in 2012 seems about right

There's big pop stars, R&B singers and well known rappers who are selling south of 100k first week even doing 50-40k and people expected this album to do numbers?

Its a combination of things:
-Lack of promo (Thats like burning money anyway cause you wont make it back)
-Their fanbase has grown up and doesnt buy CDs like that or are into Hip-Hop but still respect them
-Or check for them but wont pay to buy a CD or i-tunes (everyone does this)
-They're arent enough CD outlets like before to stock them. They was probably eating off mom and pop shops and smaller stores specializing in Hip-Hop and black music which have all sadly gone. The fukk Walmart look like putting Wu-Block?
- They probably didnt press that many units anyway. I would be shocked if a label pressed up 100,000 copies of this and shipped it first week across the States. Its not just downloading and no stores, cats dont bother overstocking.
- A Sheek/Ghost album wasnt the same as the inital idea of Wu-Block being a Lox/Wu-Tang probject.


Its not even their fault really, its just nature of the scene now.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Sheek has the best solo discography of the lox members.

Jadakiss cant make an album to save his life and style ps albums are all mediocre at best.

U sat thru multiple sheek albums?

Styles makes the best music of any member. Sheek has the least appeal, thats why he gets the least features of any lox member.

 

[Danie84]

I don't expect Hip-Hop to sale in this bubble gum fruity climate.

 

[Da King]

8,000 units in 2012 seems about right

There's big pop stars, R&B singers and well known rappers who are selling south of 100k first week even doing 50-40k and people expected this album to do numbers?

Its a combination of things:
-Lack of promo (Thats like burning money anyway cause you wont make it back)
-Their fanbase has grown up and doesnt buy CDs like that or are into Hip-Hop but still respect them
-Or check for them but wont pay to buy a CD or i-tunes (everyone does this)
-They're arent enough CD outlets like before to stock them. They was probably eating off mom and pop shops and smaller stores specializing in Hip-Hop and black music which have all sadly gone. The fukk Walmart look like putting Wu-Block?
- They probably didnt press that many units anyway. I would be shocked if a label pressed up 100,000 copies of this and shipped it first week across the States. Its not just downloading and no stores, cats dont bother overstocking.
- A Sheek/Ghost album wasnt the same as the inital idea of Wu-Block being a Lox/Wu-Tang probject.


Its not even their fault really, its just nature of the scene now.

no excuse for moving 8,000 when they both have had multiple major label solo releases


people don't fukks with them like that in 2012, their time is done