llike the majorirty are not surprised at all..a shame.
Wu-Tang - A Better Tomorrow (12/2/14) - Album Discussion Thread(Stream)
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I hear you , bro but I'm not gonna abandon faith just yet. The Boombot Rex came with only 4 tracks that's going to be on the album. Big Horn is exclusive to the Boombot. Out of those 4 tracks, I love Ruckus In B Minor. Not a fan of Ron O'Neal and Keep Watch. I won't fully sh!t on Mistaken Identity yet but that singing is God awful and cheesy. So basically we've heard in total 5 tracks from the album, including Wu-Tang Reunion. I like Wu Reunion and Ruckus, so to me that's 2/5 that's dope to me. That leaves 10 more tracks that we haven't heard yet, and I'm hoping the album will be salvaged by them. If those 10 tracks are dope then that makes it 12/15 tracks that are dope, which would make it a very solid album. The snippets I heard were very promising. Hopefully NO MORE CHEESY SINGING HOOKS! I swear that corny sh!t totally ruined Keep Watch and Ron O' Neal. Keep that bullsh!t far away from a Wu track.
Question @deeznuts...is the singing throughout Mistaken Identity?
Everytime when that singing is played , @Billy Ocean post will be in my thoughts!!!
"I wanna go hooooome, to see my wife and kids...
I wanna go hoooome to see my wife and kids...
I wanna go hooooooooooooome!!!!!
I wanna go hooooooooooooooome!!!!!!"
Man, get that cheesy, sapsucker sounding bullsh!t all the way the fvck outta here.
I'm hoping that's just at the beginning of the track and nowhere else. Corny sh!t, man.
I hope your right, I really do.
I've been kinda worried personally but every time I check this thread your posts and those of some others put me in a positive frame of mind.
Ruckas In B Minor got me really anticipating this now though. Its getting closer.
Think i'm gonna avoid the snippets though
ZEB WALTON
ayo! - BEZ
this thread just did a complete 180 wit 5 posts... im a emotional wreck over this album right now
That Big Horn track sounds dope to me. They shoulda had Keep Watch or Ron O'Neal as the Boombot exclusive and had Big Horn as one of the regular album tracks.
Here's a nice lil piece outlining what to expect on A Better Tomorrow, done after the listening session in Quad:
http://green-label.com/sound/wu-tan...w-on-a-better-tomorrow-and-it-actually-works/
WU-TANG CLAN STICKS TO WHAT THEY KNOW ON 'A BETTER TOMORROW' — AND IT ACTUALLY WORKS
Last night (November 3), Wu-Tang Clan invited industry insiders and loyal fans of the group's two-decade career to Quad Studios in NYC to hear their upcoming album,A Better Tomorrow. With "The Abbot" himself, Wu-Tang OG and primary producer RZA, presenting the project and walking the audience through production notes and song inspiration, the listening event turned into a nostalgic moment to hear hip-hop the way it was done in the golden era of rap.
WhileA Better Tomorrowisn't the best album we've heard all year, it certainly is an enjoyable project that has Method Man, Raekwon, RZA and the entire teams sounding as good as always. Scan through the gallery to read 10 major things we picked up on while previewing Wu-Tang Clan's 20th anniversary album,A Better Tomorrow.
1.The album is filled with material that literally would've fallen in place with Iron Flag or Wu Forever. That's not necessarily a bad thing, especially when considering that the album has been seven years in the making. This is a compilation of their journey in the game from 2007 (following the release of their last studio project, 8 Diagrams) up until now.
2.The production on A Better Tomorrow is what fans will appreciate the most. If consistency is what these guys are striving for, they've definitely achieved that goal.
3.The group hasn't lost a thing — the flow is still as smooth as ever. The question, however, is if they've gained anything over the extended hiatus. Seven years is a long time in the rap game; other rappers have barely been able to make it past album number two. On A Better Tomorrow, Wu-Tang's sixth album in two decades, you won't find any EDM collaborations or repetitive-yet-radio-friendly hits, but you will get soul-sampled bangers and bars for days.
Young Guru, who we caught up with as he quietly enjoyed the album preview with the rest of the crowd, said about the production, "Wu-Tang is forever, and that's not a cliché. The production takes me back to classic Wu-Tang albums. I love seeing [the entire group] on there. Rae and Meth went off the most on [the album]. I'm just happy that The Clan is back together and people my age can have something to appreciate."
Basically, everyone on this album delivers.
4.Those listening — and watching — closely can see that RZA put all the frustration of rumored group drama and extended album delays into producing quality beats. Based off the first listen, the outcome was pretty dope.
5.RZA presented the album at Quad Studios in NYC solo, with Wu member U-God breezing through to show support and snap a few flicks for the press.
When we caught up with U-God in between songs, he told us, "[Wu-Tang's] been doing our thing for 20 years, and this is what we do. Hopefully in 2017 we get inducted into the [Rock And Roll] Hall of Fame. RZA did his thing on this album. I sat back and just enjoyed the ride."
The in-studio vibe between the two proved that even though there may have been some past feuds between members, these guys are still dedicated to the mission of being the greatest hip-hop collective to ever do it.
6.Quad [Studios] filled up quickly with writers, editors, photographers and industry heads that could probably still recall ODB's infamous limo ride with MTV News when it first aired. While the room had its fair share of texters and talkers, those actually paying attention to the presentation of the album got to hear a cohesive project through and through.
7.Lack of experimentation might be the album's biggest downfall. By preserving that classic Wu sound of the '90s and early 2000s, they risk abandoning the new generation, who have proven through social media and cultural impact that they're the ones in charge of this generation's wins and fails when it comes to the Billboard charts.
8.It's apparent by the sound of A Better Tomorrow that Wu is preserving the legacy they've been building for the better half of 20 years — especially by not accommodating to the radio of 2014. A Better Tomorrow is ultimately for the OG Wu fan, not the "Shmoney Dance" generation. If you can understand that, then it's easy to classify this album as one of the strongest hip-hop albums of the year, even with less than two months left in 2014.
9.Listen to this album with open ears — i.e. don't listen to it with the preconceived notion that the guys aren't getting along. If you're a new fan, this is a good project to understand why the group's dynamic legacy is so respected in hip-hop. You'll still need to go back and listen to Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)to get the real Wu effect, though.
10. Your opinion on this album will come down to the generation of rap that you rep. '90s heads will love it. New gen rap fans will take time trying to understand it or quickly write it off as 'boring.' It's not though. Trust.
http://green-label.com/sound/wu-tan...w-on-a-better-tomorrow-and-it-actually-works/
WU-TANG CLAN STICKS TO WHAT THEY KNOW ON 'A BETTER TOMORROW' — AND IT ACTUALLY WORKS
Last night (November 3), Wu-Tang Clan invited industry insiders and loyal fans of the group's two-decade career to Quad Studios in NYC to hear their upcoming album,A Better Tomorrow. With "The Abbot" himself, Wu-Tang OG and primary producer RZA, presenting the project and walking the audience through production notes and song inspiration, the listening event turned into a nostalgic moment to hear hip-hop the way it was done in the golden era of rap.
WhileA Better Tomorrowisn't the best album we've heard all year, it certainly is an enjoyable project that has Method Man, Raekwon, RZA and the entire teams sounding as good as always. Scan through the gallery to read 10 major things we picked up on while previewing Wu-Tang Clan's 20th anniversary album,A Better Tomorrow.
1.The album is filled with material that literally would've fallen in place with Iron Flag or Wu Forever. That's not necessarily a bad thing, especially when considering that the album has been seven years in the making. This is a compilation of their journey in the game from 2007 (following the release of their last studio project, 8 Diagrams) up until now.
2.The production on A Better Tomorrow is what fans will appreciate the most. If consistency is what these guys are striving for, they've definitely achieved that goal.
3.The group hasn't lost a thing — the flow is still as smooth as ever. The question, however, is if they've gained anything over the extended hiatus. Seven years is a long time in the rap game; other rappers have barely been able to make it past album number two. On A Better Tomorrow, Wu-Tang's sixth album in two decades, you won't find any EDM collaborations or repetitive-yet-radio-friendly hits, but you will get soul-sampled bangers and bars for days.
Young Guru, who we caught up with as he quietly enjoyed the album preview with the rest of the crowd, said about the production, "Wu-Tang is forever, and that's not a cliché. The production takes me back to classic Wu-Tang albums. I love seeing [the entire group] on there. Rae and Meth went off the most on [the album]. I'm just happy that The Clan is back together and people my age can have something to appreciate."
Basically, everyone on this album delivers.
4.Those listening — and watching — closely can see that RZA put all the frustration of rumored group drama and extended album delays into producing quality beats. Based off the first listen, the outcome was pretty dope.
5.RZA presented the album at Quad Studios in NYC solo, with Wu member U-God breezing through to show support and snap a few flicks for the press.
When we caught up with U-God in between songs, he told us, "[Wu-Tang's] been doing our thing for 20 years, and this is what we do. Hopefully in 2017 we get inducted into the [Rock And Roll] Hall of Fame. RZA did his thing on this album. I sat back and just enjoyed the ride."
The in-studio vibe between the two proved that even though there may have been some past feuds between members, these guys are still dedicated to the mission of being the greatest hip-hop collective to ever do it.
6.Quad [Studios] filled up quickly with writers, editors, photographers and industry heads that could probably still recall ODB's infamous limo ride with MTV News when it first aired. While the room had its fair share of texters and talkers, those actually paying attention to the presentation of the album got to hear a cohesive project through and through.
7.Lack of experimentation might be the album's biggest downfall. By preserving that classic Wu sound of the '90s and early 2000s, they risk abandoning the new generation, who have proven through social media and cultural impact that they're the ones in charge of this generation's wins and fails when it comes to the Billboard charts.
8.It's apparent by the sound of A Better Tomorrow that Wu is preserving the legacy they've been building for the better half of 20 years — especially by not accommodating to the radio of 2014. A Better Tomorrow is ultimately for the OG Wu fan, not the "Shmoney Dance" generation. If you can understand that, then it's easy to classify this album as one of the strongest hip-hop albums of the year, even with less than two months left in 2014.
9.Listen to this album with open ears — i.e. don't listen to it with the preconceived notion that the guys aren't getting along. If you're a new fan, this is a good project to understand why the group's dynamic legacy is so respected in hip-hop. You'll still need to go back and listen to Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)to get the real Wu effect, though.
10. Your opinion on this album will come down to the generation of rap that you rep. '90s heads will love it. New gen rap fans will take time trying to understand it or quickly write it off as 'boring.' It's not though. Trust.
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Just Blaze ain't a fan of the engineering for the Ruckus In B Minor joint 
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...stions-engineering-on-new-wu-tang-clan-single
Could've been better, but still a dope record
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...stions-engineering-on-new-wu-tang-clan-single
Could've been better, but still a dope record
Just Blaze ain't a fan of the engineering for the Ruckus In B Minor joint
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...stions-engineering-on-new-wu-tang-clan-single
Could've been better, but still a dope record
He ain't lying. I listened to it on the train today and said the same thing. Still a dope record though
Points 8, 9, 10 and 7 have me hype..and what Guru said even though I'm not his age, I'm an old soul
Big Mel
@bigboss
So going off that Just Blaze tweet my guess is Ghost is off beat?
That's what happens when you don'take records organically and email shyt back an forth. We will be lucky if this is as good as 8 Diagrams in light of all this new info.
That's what happens when you don'take records organically and email shyt back an forth. We will be lucky if this is as good as 8 Diagrams in light of all this new info.
Big Mel
@bigboss
This offbeat vocals shyt is the most glaring example of rap music making incompetence ever btw. Like rap on beat. Goddamn.