WWE attaining it's lowest ratings in 18 years

[Da King]

Cena may tie Flair's record, but he will never have the career or legacy of Ric. Funny that you shyt on "indie darlings" and Flair was the territories version of an indie darling.
Thank you based innanet gawds for YouTube and Daily Motion #FREEWRESTLINGMATCHES

Funny you mention Flair who does nothing but praise CeGOAT and says his run on top is one of the greatest ever in the business

 

[Switch]

Stopped watching Raw early 2014, I was bored to tears can only imagine what its like now....

From what I've read the authority shyt is still going on

 

[The Entity]

I think all of it sucks. The commentary, the writing and the wrestlers. I cant think of one reason to be optimistic. Its all so safe and stale, its disgusting

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

I think all of it sucks. The commentary, the writing and the wrestlers. I cant think of one reason to be optimistic. Its all so safe and stale, its disgusting

Vince just doesn't care anymore I think. It doesn't feel like anyone is trying. I watched beast in the east last night and there were many, and I mean MANY spots all show where commentary would just go silent and then come back in all unexcited like its no big deal. I genuinely think this is a worse product than 2000 wcw was. Just my opinion.

 

[LastManStanding]

more of this

 

[2CT]

If they are adamant about keeping it three hours, then they need to incorporate more style. Stop opening with 20 minutes of talking because it sets a bad pace. Bring back the cruiserweight belt, give the overlooked talent something to do, and get the crowd hyped from the jump. Even if the crowd isn't interested in the talent at the beginning, flashy moves will always illicit a response. From there you start planting the seeds for what's to come in the evening. Cut to a champ, contender, or authority figure arriving at the arena and have commentary tell you the person's purpose for the evening or speculate as to what they might have say later in the show. Fill the rest of the hour with stories/matches that develop the mid-card singles talent.

Open the second hour with the main heel spoutin' bout what he's gonna do to the face, have the other guy respond from backstage and set the main event for the evening. Don't have'm in the ring talking to each other because then it's like "Well, why don't they just fight now?" Same goes for the stale Talking-from-the-Stage approach. Don't be in the same area 'less you're gonna fight. I don't buy you hate this guy as much as you claim if you are able to be within arm's reach or short strolling distance and fukking conversate for 10 minutes. From there go into a revived hardcore title match. Just pure physical fukkery to follow the quasi-slam poetry performance we witnesses minutes before. Hell, it doesn't even need to be the hardcore division. Just have matches that convey that the beef between two opponents is so strong that it can't be contained within the ring. Have that shyt spill into the backstage area like so many used to do. Work in some comical aspects on occasion and it eleminates the need for the pitiful comedy segments that almost always fail. Fill out the rest of the hour with a tag match with teams not quite in the tag title hunt yet, some backstage talking, and selling of what's to come, and have the IC title players close out.

Open the third with some divas. Lots of kids are probably in bed by this point, so you have a bit more leeway with what they wear/do. I prefer they have NXT-level quality matches and relevance, but if you are only gonna treat them as eye candy, then at least do it right. Have the main tag champs or contenders shine in a match after that, have some backstage segments that wrap up mid-card stories for the night and plants the seeds for what's to come on SD! or next week's Raw. Then end the show with the main event and the ensuing fukkery.

That's obviously not a set formula by any means, but I think a Man of the Hour approach could do a lot of good. You keep certain divisions at certain times and see what the problem is. Fans develop a sense of what's happening when, then you got people debating what hour of talent is the most entertaining. Instead of having 150 throwaway minutes that you yourself don't even care for if your pencil is any indication, you got hourly loyalties being built and you could determine which segments were strongest and why. Switch the positioning of the first two hours on occasion to determine whether it is the hour that is over or the talent and make changes based on what you find.

And finally: stop recapping events within the show, it is taxing on one's patience. The attitude of "I can tune in late because they'll recap 10 times anyway" should strike fear into the E because it means that the product is not Can't Miss. Talk about it, play off it with interviews and occasional commentary references, but only video recap it once in the evening, and if someone missed it, they missed it. It's 2015, they can go look it up online in HD if they missed it or go back on their DVR. Let's use that time to develop people, not remind you of what already established talent did 40 minutes ago.

this just made me miss the attitude era

 

[DaHNIC82]

Honestly, I don't think it has to do with the boring writing or stale authority figure or even the no unknown big name wrestlers, or even the 3 hr show (even though I believe a 2hr show would do better).

I think audience has outgrown "wrestling". They might tune in every now and then, but they won't stick around for an entire 2hr or 3hr show. Even if they went back to the attitude era and bring back tv-14, ratings would still be down.

I don't think we'll have a boom period anytime soon. Wrestling definitely is in depression mode, just look at TNA, a mere few yrs ago they were constantly getting 1.2 with ease, I know DA is offered worldwide but they can barely get above 0.3 and the product is better now than ever

Seemed all good years ago

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Its everything but the fact that its three hours. I'm pretty sure if one of your favorite all time shows replaced Raw in a three hour slot you would be interested from start to finish.
It's just, everything from Vince being an a$$hole, commentators being a$$holes, writers being a$$holes, and fans being the biggest a$$holes. You ask yourself if this wrestling is even worth your time anymore.

 

[DaHNIC82]

Its everything but the fact that its three hours. I'm pretty sure if one of your favorite all time shows replaced Raw in a three hour slot you would be interested from start to finish.
It's just, everything from Vince being an a$$hole, commentators being a$$holes, writers being a$$holes, and fans being the biggest a$$holes. You ask yourself if this wrestling is even worth your time anymore.

Look at the roster even 10 years ago and look now The folks we've grown to watch are gone and loved are gone:
Punk(Gone)
Bryan(Done)
Batista(Gone)
Rock(Appears time to time)
Austin(Retired)
Michaels(Retired)
Edge(Retired)
Mysterio(Gone)
Booker(Retired)
Angle(Gone)
Dudleyz(Gone)
RVD(semi working)
Jericho(Semi Working)
HHH(Semi working)
Benoit(Dead)
Eddie(Dead)
Lashley(Gone)

Thats a chunk of star power and draw there. They didn't groom folks to come take Cena's spot and based 90% of the shows around him

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Look at the roster even 10 years ago and look now The folks we've grown to watch are gone and loved are gone:
Punk(Gone)
Bryan(Done)
Batista(Gone)
Rock(Appears time to time)
Austin(Retired)
Michaels(Retired)
Edge(Retired)
Mysterio(Gone)
Booker(Retired)
Angle(Gone)
Dudleyz(Gone)
RVD(semi working)
Jericho(Semi Working)
HHH(Semi working)
Benoit(Dead)
Eddie(Dead)
Lashley(Gone)

Thats a chunk of star power and draw there. They didn't groom folks to come take Cena's spot and based 90% of the shows around him

Hey you lose a lot of greats, it happens. Look at any real sport, look at a teams roster from five years ago and realize about 3 guys from that roster is left.

There was a short period of time when everything was based on cena but surely not in 2015. Dude doesn't revolve around the wwe title anymore, and the last time he did was only because Bryan got injured. He rarely closes out the shows on TV now, it's usually one of the shield members. All he does now is defend the US title and get some TV time. You obviously can't sit here, lie and tell me hes getting more tv time than Seth/Authority. Cena's in a great prime having great feuds and matches.

Which goes back to a$$holes, vince and writers. WWE program now is putting out some of the best wrestling matches week in and out. The thing is they can't get people relevant, less than over. Plus what they write is garbage as fukk. The authority has been around for the longest for no fukking reason. This shyt should have been done when Bryan won at XXX. They have veteran guys who have been around since basically my freshmen year in highschool, in ziggler and kofi, by the way who has really not done shyt with their careers worth remembering besides ziggler getting a cash in. They have crappy angles, for example, Roman/Bray. They have many wrestlers who could be doing a bunch of things but writers always give the "we dont know what to do with them" line. And last but not least they use the same format every wee. Raw starts, 20 min promo, paul and brock come out and just talk, countless authoirty cut scenes and some bogus finish to end the show.

I mean why should we watch?

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Vince needs to go man..... What is he like 70? My grandpa is around that age and I get nervous in the car with him, just imagine being that age with this big of a company.

 

[Da King]

Look at the roster even 10 years ago and look now The folks we've grown to watch are gone and loved are gone:
Punk(Gone)
Bryan(Done)
Batista(Gone)
Rock(Appears time to time)
Austin(Retired)
Michaels(Retired)
Edge(Retired)
Mysterio(Gone)
Booker(Retired)
Angle(Gone)
Dudleyz(Gone)
RVD(semi working)
Jericho(Semi Working)
HHH(Semi working)
Benoit(Dead)
Eddie(Dead)
Lashley(Gone)

Thats a chunk of star power and draw there. They didn't groom folks to come take Cena's spot and based 90% of the shows around him

LOL @ throwing Lashley on that list and the Dudley's were mid card tag wrestlers yet you got them on a list of champions

 

[ThisIsLife]

Besides NXT, the WWE is unwatchable. They are outdated with horrible writing, which sucks because they have really great talent and most of them are not being used properly.

 

[mrken12]

http://www.gerweck.net/2015/07/08/h...th-brock-lesnar-cesaro-vs-john-cena-and-more/

Monday’s episode of WWE RAW, featuring Brock Lesnar plus John Cena vs. Cesaro in the main event slot, drew 3.647 million viewers. This is up from last week’s 3.462 million viewers.
For this week’s show, the first hour drew 3.637 million viewers, the second hour drew 3.689 million viewers and the final hour drew 3.615 million viewers.

RAW was #2 for the night behind Major Crimes on TNT.

 

[Killer Instinct]

Ratings up and they closed moderately strong?