X-Men MCU

[Vandelay]

The Magneto origin you outlined, wouldn't he not be a mutant then?
And they are definitely trying to make blockbuster movies with this.

I mean, he was a black ops experiment because he was a mutant. They were using his powers on black ops projects...

And I couldn't see the movie I outlined or that tone making more than 250 domestic on at least a 200 million budget.

"Ain't no coming back from gold..."

 

[HipHopStan]

Yes, that shyt was trash. The Roger Corman Fantastic 4 was better than that and I wanted to smack the fukk outta the lil white girl.

 

[head shots101]

yall don't know how Marvel will incorporate the x men universe in the mcu stop talking this "oh X men will be better as a separate universe shyt" please

 

[head shots101]

all those x men movies were fukking trash ALL of them besides Logan but y'all overrate that shyt

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Wouldn't shock me if the Dark Phoenix reshoots came down from Disney to make some sort of transition to Disney.

That and New Mutants were too far along to cancel.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

 

[head shots101]

Wouldn't shock me if the Dark Phoenix reshoots came down from Disney to make some sort of transition to Disney.

That and New Mutants were too far along to cancel.

Doubt it... They rebooting that whole bullshyt

 

[HipHopStan]

I'm just wondering how they will incorporate Deadpool in all of this. I know that people keep saying Netflix TV, but I think Deadpool is to much a regular commodity for a Netflix TV series.

 

[AllHolosEve]

I don't mind them doing crossovers or making excuses why the teams didn't help each other, the shyt happens all the time in the comics. My issue is if they bring the X-Men to the current MCU, like others, I see no logical way to explain where all the mutants were this whole time. It's easy to come up with the X-Men themselves not being around but not mutantkind in general.

You gotta retcon their whole story since no global oppression of mutantkind has ever existed in this universe, seeing as there ARE NO mutants in this universe. Their whole reason for existence doesn't exist so there's literally no reason to form an X-Team, build Sentinels, Morlocks hiding, etc. The tension & oppression needed for them can't just come out the blue, like "Oh, these people were having a civil war in Genosha this whole time and are moving around the world now. We just realized we should be scared."

 

[Bleed The Freak]

I don't mind them doing crossovers or making excuses why the teams didn't help each other, the shyt happens all the time in the comics. My issue is if they bring the X-Men to the current MCU, like others, I see no logical way to explain where all the mutants were this whole time. It's easy to come up with the X-Men themselves not being around but not mutantkind in general.

You gotta retcon their whole story since no global oppression of mutantkind has ever existed in this universe, seeing as there ARE NO mutants in this universe. Their whole reason for existence doesn't exist so there's literally no reason to form an X-Team, build Sentinels, Morlocks hiding, etc. The tension & oppression needed for them can't just come out the blue, like "Oh, these people were having a civil war in Genosha this whole time and are moving around the world now. We just realized we should be scared."

Considering Disney has been batting at about 80% (IM2, IM3, Thor 2 and AOU are all terrible) I think Feige likely has secretly had storyboards for X-Men & FF for the last 10 years. He's way too meticulous and had Spider-Man anticipated for Civil War even when they didn't have the rights. He had no choice with all those contracts expiring too and running the same characters through the ground and lack of villains.

I think FF and Silver Surfer especially will have an easy intro. You can easily place Silver Surfer in Guardians 3 and move into Galactus.

You can have Reed Richards buy Stark Tower and then do his mission and have the FF and Doom.

X-Men no doubt will be a bytch. But considering how long they been eager to get them I'm down. I'd believe they were in another universe, a flashback or just brand new and as long as it's better than this Fox mediocrity I'll be happy.

 

[MostHatedBox]

shyt after Thanos come through there aint gonna be many Avengers left. Perfect time to introduce the X Men

 

[Days of Future Piff]

I don't mind them doing crossovers or making excuses why the teams didn't help each other, the shyt happens all the time in the comics. My issue is if they bring the X-Men to the current MCU, like others, I see no logical way to explain where all the mutants were this whole time. It's easy to come up with the X-Men themselves not being around but not mutantkind in general.

You gotta retcon their whole story since no global oppression of mutantkind has ever existed in this universe, seeing as there ARE NO mutants in this universe. Their whole reason for existence doesn't exist so there's literally no reason to form an X-Team, build Sentinels, Morlocks hiding, etc. The tension & oppression needed for them can't just come out the blue, like "Oh, these people were having a civil war in Genosha this whole time and are moving around the world now. We just realized we should be scared."

As cool as Genosha and the Morlocks are, they don't even make sense in the actual comics when you really think about it.
In the classic years, it was a big deal when they could use Cerebro to discover Nightcrawler from the other side of the planet. But Cerebro never tipped them off to the existence of an entire community of hundreds of underground sewer-dwelling mutants right underneath the noses of the heroes? If the morlocks had always been there, then why didn't Professor X try and recruit some of them for the X-men before flying all the way out to Kenya to holler at Storm?
The old comics made it seem like it was a big deal to get eight or nine mutants together, let alone hundreds.

How come Cerebro never tipped them off to the existence of Genosha? An entire country that sustains itself almost entirely on mutant slave labor doesn't just magically pop up overnight. What kept Professor X from doing something about Genosha before it got that bad? (I can accept it if they explained this in the comics though.) You'd think Magneto would have been heated over Genosha's existence and gone off to annihilate everyone running the place ages ago. To my understanding, the OG comics up until Genosha and the Morlocks, treated mutants as if they were extremely rare, and the books were written as if there were only 2000 mutants in the entire world (or 1 out of every million people tops). For that reason, it was always a big moment when they discovered a new one via Cerebro.

 

[AllHolosEve]

Considering Disney has been batting at about 80% (IM2, IM3, Thor 2 and AOU are all terrible) I think Feige likely has secretly had storyboards for X-Men & FF for the last 10 years. He's way too meticulous and had Spider-Man anticipated for Civil War even when they didn't have the rights. He had no choice with all those contracts expiring too and running the same characters through the ground and lack of villains.

I think FF and Silver Surfer especially will have an easy intro. You can easily place Silver Surfer in Guardians 3 and move into Galactus.

You can have Reed Richards buy Stark Tower and then do his mission and have the FF and Doom.

X-Men no doubt will be a bytch. But considering how long they been eager to get them I'm down. I'd believe they were in another universe, a flashback or just brand new and as long as it's better than this Fox mediocrity I'll be happy.

No doubt F4 will be easy, just say they were in space & tie GOTG or Thanos flying by accidently knocking their ship of course into the cosmic storm & they just got back recently, Surfer just ain't been in this part of space til now. Doom been in Latveria & saw no real threat to his people so he minded his own business. Still mad about Galactus Cloud.

I'm down with them coming home, been wanting it. Just curious how they explain the larger mutant population not having their overwhelming presence yet. I don't think Marvel gonna fukk X-Men up at all.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

No doubt F4 will be easy, just say they were in space & tie GOTG or Thanos flying by accidently knocking their ship of course into the cosmic storm & they just got back recently, Surfer just ain't been in this part of space til now. Doom been in Latveria & saw no real threat to his people so he minded his own business. Still mad about Galactus Cloud.

I'm down with them coming home, been wanting it. Just curious how they explain the larger mutant population not having their overwhelming presence yet. I don't think Marvel gonna fukk X-Men up at all.

Maybe rather than Magneto being WW2 holocaust victim you could do a post WW2 or late 70's rebirth of a Nazi group (or Hydra faction) that killed his family and in the 90's or 2000's he met Charles....

Wolverine you could do flashbacks with Cap in WW2 and he could have been on some in Canada when Thanos came into town cause it wasn't his beef. Lots of ways to work around it.

 

[AllHolosEve]

As cool as Genosha and the Morlocks are, they don't even make sense in the actual comics when you really think about it.
In the classic years, it was a big deal when they could use Cerebro to discover Nightcrawler from the other side of the planet. But Cerebro never tipped them off to the existence of an entire community of hundreds of underground sewer-dwelling mutants right underneath the noses of the heroes? If the morlocks had always been there, then why didn't Professor X try and recruit some of them for the X-men before flying all the way out to Kenya to holler at Storm?
The old comics made it seem like it was a big deal to get eight or nine mutants together, let alone hundreds.

How come Cerebro never tipped them off to the existence of Genosha? An entire country that sustains itself almost entirely on mutant slave labor doesn't just magically pop up overnight. What kept Professor X from doing something about Genosha before it got that bad? (I can accept it if they explained this in the comics though.) You'd think Magneto would have been heated over Genosha's existence and gone off to annihilate everyone running the place ages ago. To my understanding, the OG comics up until Genosha and the Morlocks, treated mutants as if they were extremely rare, and the books were written as if there were only 2000 mutants in the entire world (or 1 out of every million people tops). For that reason, it was always a big moment when they discovered a new one via Cerebro.

The og Genoshian slaves weren't mutants, they were mutates, experiments right? Cerebro probably didn't read them. Genosha was under control of Sugarman and the Morlocks under McCoy (Dark Beast), both students the greatest troll in the MCU, fukkboy Essex. Maybe they were sheilded somehow .

Since they doing a multiverse just have X-Men solo & establish their world. When the time's right something happens simultaneously on both sides to cause an inversion. Three team war, each universe got a team trying to save their own at the expense of the other, last team is the work together to save everybody team. Too potential fukkery to imagine.