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I'm reading that the new PS4 won't be able to play games in 4k. so whats the fukking point of this then? there's still no 4k content available if it's not gonna play games.

Its an upgraded version of the PS4 breh, no more, no less.
 

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Yall are not paying attention to these interviews.

He's not aiming for that crowd. He's selling them Xbox games on PC.

That's the thing I am paying attention to what he's saying he's already said expensive, high performance, if you want 1080p get the lesser expensive model. That does not sound to me like this is going to to be sold for 399. Honestly them moving to PC sounds good on paper but in the end I don't think it will be a good idea when it comes to selling consoles. When for third party titles you can play those already on PC and they'll look better and plus you'll be able to play them on the competing console with the larger install base. The only way this is going to get buyers is if there's exclusive games for it. Consoles are for the casual there a cheaper alternative then a PC there is no point in making a high powered console yet all your exclusive games are going to play on the superior platform. Atleast with the PS4 I know that there's atleast certain games that won't be on the PC or Xbox and that is the very reason they will get beaten again in the second round. The fact that the people are talking more about the games coming out on PS4 then the Scorpio console coming out tells you whats about to happen.
 

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That's the thing I am paying attention to what he's saying he's already said expensive, high performance, if you want 1080p get the lesser expensive model. That does not sound to me like this is going to to be sold for 399.
You don't know what it "sounds" like :mjlol:

I'm going by the price of the hardware. AMD has a really cheap 6Tflop card coming out. It will cost about as much as the GPU did in the X1 in 2013, there is no Kinect this time, so $400 is not unreasonable.

Honestly them moving to PC sounds good on paper but in the end I don't think it will be a good idea when it comes to selling consoles. When for third party titles you can play those already on PC and they'll look better and plus you'll be able to play them on the competing console with the larger install base. The only way this is going to get buyers is if there's exclusive games for it. Consoles are for the casual there a cheaper alternative then a PC there is no point in making a high powered console yet all your exclusive games are going to play on the superior platform. Atleast with the PS4 I know that there's atleast certain games that won't be on the PC or Xbox and that is the very reason they will get beaten again in the second round.
Selling more consoles means nothing, they pretty much break even or sometimes lose money on the sale of a console.

Software and services is where the money is. They aren't even trying to compete in overall hardware sales. They are trying to make money, and get people into their ecosystem.

Sony has to sell software on their own console to be profitable, Microsoft does not. They sell software on a multitude of devices.

The fact that the people are talking more about the games coming out on PS4 then the Scorpio console coming out tells you wants about to happen.
This isn't true. We got a thread on that.
 

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That's the thing I am paying attention to what he's saying he's already said expensive, high performance, if you want 1080p get the lesser expensive model. That does not sound to me like this is going to to be sold for 399. Honestly them moving to PC sounds good on paper but in the end I don't think it will be a good idea when it comes to selling consoles. When for third party titles you can play those already on PC and they'll look better and plus you'll be able to play them on the competing console with the larger install base. The only way this is going to get buyers is if there's exclusive games for it. Consoles are for the casual there a cheaper alternative then a PC there is no point in making a high powered console yet all your exclusive games are going to play on the superior platform. Atleast with the PS4 I know that there's atleast certain games that won't be on the PC or Xbox and that is the very reason they will get beaten again in the second round. The fact that the people are talking more about the games coming out on PS4 then the Scorpio console coming out tells you whats about to happen.
you make good points but understand this.

What can a PC powerful Console due vs a Powerful PC? are they the same? Not quite. The Console thats as powerful as a powerful PC is by far the best way to play GAMES. Reason being, there is nothing else running in the background. no other crap that you need for your PC. The console is optomized to play games not do spreadsheets. Where you get more hiccups with your PC you will have a lot less hiccups with a pc level powerful console.

This means They may actually steal some of the PC master race people and put them in a console box once they realize they can own a laptop for surfing the net and doing the basic pc stuff(Work/school). but blow it out on the suped up console that is a dedicated gaming box. XBox could actually get new customers.

and while doing that they will keep making the xbox S type of consoles for the casual gamer at a lower price.
 

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you make good points but understand this.

What can a PC powerful Console due vs a Powerful PC? are they the same? Not quite. The Console thats as powerful as a powerful PC is by far the best way to play GAMES. Reason being, there is nothing else running in the background. no other crap that you need for your PC. The console is optomized to play games not do spreadsheets. Where you get more hiccups with your PC you will have a lot less hiccups with a pc level powerful console.

This means They may actually steal some of the PC master race people and put them in a console box once they realize they can own a laptop for surfing the net and doing the basic pc stuff(Work/school). but blow it out on the suped up console that is a dedicated gaming box. XBox could actually get new customers.

and while doing that they will keep making the xbox S type of consoles for the casual gamer at a lower price.
I don't think that's really true. I mean I've seen benchmarks of games on PC's with specs that are on par or worse than a PS4/Xbox perform better. Nowadays console architecture is basically teh same as PC so there's no "magic" so to speak.
 

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I don't think that's really true. I mean I've seen benchmarks of games on PC's with specs that are on par or worse than a PS4/Xbox perform better.
People forget this too. Just because you have the raw power doesn't always mean the game itself is going to perform the way people think it will on PC. The only person that's kept it real about this is @Ciggavelli
 

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you make good points but understand this.

What can a PC powerful Console due vs a Powerful PC? are they the same? Not quite. The Console thats as powerful as a powerful PC is by far the best way to play GAMES. Reason being, there is nothing else running in the background. no other crap that you need for your PC. The console is optomized to play games not do spreadsheets. Where you get more hiccups with your PC you will have a lot less hiccups with a pc level powerful console.

This means They may actually steal some of the PC master race people and put them in a console box once they realize they can own a laptop for surfing the net and doing the basic pc stuff(Work/school). but blow it out on the suped up console that is a dedicated gaming box. XBox could actually get new customers.

and while doing that they will keep making the xbox S type of consoles for the casual gamer at a lower price.


I could see what your saying if developers weren't going to still make games for the underpowered console for the O.G Xbox 1. But that's the higher install base Developers are probably going to work with the low end and scale up to the high end which is going to create more patches and shyt for the higher end consoles. Your going to see more shyt like the Batman Arkham Knight fukk ups more than ever now. We truly won't see the true potential of the scorpio because it will always be held back by the old tech.
 

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I don't think that's really true. I mean I've seen benchmarks of games on PC's with specs that are on par or worse than a PS4/Xbox perform better. Nowadays console architecture is basically teh same as PC so there's no "magic" so to speak.
Not really when you consider the consoles are constantly running background programs in addition to the games.

Those benchmarks are best case scenario, nothing else's running on th machine numbers.

On console there's capture software running, friends apps, music playing in the background etc.

If you did that with a PC running benchmarks they'd be much worse than consoles.
 

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Not really when you consider the consoles are constantly running background programs in addition to the games.

Those benchmarks are best case scenario, nothing else's running on th machine numbers.

On console there's capture software running, friends apps, music playing in the background etc.

If you did that with a PC running benchmarks they'd be much worse than consoles.
Nah.. I can play games on my PC with lots of background tasks running and depending on the game, it'll play without a hitch. It's all relative though as a PC setup varies from one to another so a perfect comparison is hard unless you were to do comparisons off of a fresh install.
 

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isn't that a risk selling anything?

I was going off winb saying about them putting out the same improved product and assuming that people will continue to by the inferior lower selling product if they can't afford it. That's like yugo releasing a newer and more expensive yugo and hoping that the buyers will just buy the inferior lower late model selling vibe if that can't afford the new one.
 
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