Xbox Series X full specs revealed

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But the 2080ti has 14.2 teraflops :why:

But, yeah, the XSX will be better optimized :sadcam:
flops aren't the only factor in a GPU's power. a lot of AMD cards have more flops, but perform worse in gaming compared to Nvidia cards. it's also why AMD cards were better for mining
 

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Brotha. Nah. Lol. A 2080ti is $1400. By itself. Let’s be realistic. Lol

Obviously Microsoft and Sony aren't getting their GPU's from Nvidia but when you're selling parts in the millions, you have significantly
more bargaining power. You can haggle down something that's more expensive because they know they'll make more money
off of that one GPU being sold to Microsoft/Sony to manufacture than they normally would for the lifetime of that product.

The 7800 GTX launched at $600 the year prior to the Ps3's release.
The Price of Ps3 at launch was $600 (which was expensive for the time)
was considerably cheaper than an equivalent PC would've been at that time.

The Xbox One X was meant to match a PC which would've caused roughly $1100 at the time of it's release
and it offered great performance for a considerably lower price.


I suspect the same thing will happen with Xbox Series X, especially if they could go wild with the B.O.M.


**I saw that to say, it could probably offer very good performance at a considerable bargain and I'll likely wait
until we get actual performance metrics from the console, it could surprise a lot of people at release.
 

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Obviously Microsoft and Sony aren't getting their GPU's from Nvidia but when you're selling parts in the millions, you have significantly
more bargaining power. You can haggle down something that's more expensive because they know they'll make more money
off of that one GPU being sold to Microsoft/Sony to manufacture than they normally would for the lifetime of that product.

The 7800 GTX launched at $600 the year prior to the Ps3's release.
The Price of Ps3 at launch was $600 (which was expensive for the time)
was considerably cheaper than an equivalent PC would've been at that time.

The Xbox One X was meant to match a PC which would've caused roughly $1100 at the time of it's release
and it offered great performance for a considerably lower price.


I suspect the same thing will happen with Xbox Series X, especially if they could go wild with the B.O.M.


**I saw that to say, it could probably offer very good performance at a considerable bargain and I'll likely wait
until we get actual performance metrics from the console, it could surprise a lot of people at release.
Son. I literally said all thru this thread that the Series X is gonna be on par with a 2070 Super and is prolly gonna be the best bang for buck bargain when it comes to gaming on the mid tier. There’s nothing that’s gonna match it. But let’s look at that price tag u just gave me. The 7800 GTX was $600 right? The PS3 was $600 right? They sold it at a significant loss because of the Blu Ray player and backwards compatibility features. They were losing so much that they had to change the architecture of the console only a year into it’s release. If we gonna tell the story. Let’s tell the whole thing. $600 GPU. Say they got it wholesale. Knock about 50% off of that. They got it down to $300 per GPU. Cool. Now let’s look at the space they had to fit the other hardware into the console. For one. They developed their own CPU. And number 2. They still ended up selling the console for less than it costed to make it. Let’s knock 50% off of a 2080ti. That shyt will STILL fill in the whole damn budget for the console. They AINT doing that especially when they got all this tech with the SSD’s n shyt like that. They would have to sell the console at atleast a 30% loss and that’s WITH getting the GPU wholesale. Of course I don’t think they get the parts for retail prices. I posted that to show u the scale of pricing they would have to account for. Not to mention the fact that AMD doesn’t have an answer for the 2080 or 2080TI on the shelves at all right now.
 

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The difference is Teraflops is an actual measurable metric.
The other shyt was too. But it’s not end all be all. There’s ALOT more to GPU power and performance than Teraflops. I feel like nikkas act stupid EVERY time a new console comes out and I’ve been consistently proven right for like 7 years straight at this point. With nikkas arguing over Dreams vs Reality. These consoles ain't fukkin with the highest end gaming GPU in the world right now. Y’all losing y’all fukkin minds. A 2070 super is what this shyt is gonna basically be and that shyt is a BEAST but nikkas don’t wanna be realistic. And that makes the most sense. For instance. A 2070 Super is $550. Microsoft would pay like $250 to $300 for the GPU. That gives them room to do other shyt if they plan on pricing it at $500. That’s the best power to price compromise. What this card is gonna be based on. The Radeon 7900 XT is around $390 retail. So this is what we’re looking at right now. A better version of the 7900 XT. Which is equal to a 2070 Super. My guess is that the PS5 is gonna be a like an overclocked standard 7900 XT. While the Series X will be like the overclocked “TI” version of that card.
 
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The other shyt was too. But it’s not end all be all. There’s ALOT more to GPU power and performance than Teraflops. I feel like nikkas act stupid EVERY time a new console comes out and I’ve been consistently proven right for like 7 years straight at this point. With nikkas arguing over Dreams vs Reality. These consoles ain't fukkin with the highest end gaming GPU in the world right now. Y’all losing y’all fukkin minds. A 2070 super is what this shyt is gonna basically be and that shyt is a BEAST but nikkas don’t wanna be realistic. And that makes the most sense. For instance. A 2070 Super is $550. Microsoft would pay like $250 to $300 for the GPU. That gives them room to do other shyt if they plan on pricing it at $500. That’s the best power to price compromise. What this card is gonna be based on. The Radeon 7900 XT is around $390 retail. So this is what we’re looking at right now. A better version of the 7900 XT. Which is equal to a 2070 Super. My guess is that the PS5 is gonna be a like and overclocked standard 7900 XT. While the Series X will be like the overclocked “TI” version of that card.
PS5 is going to be 9 teraflops undocked, 14 teraflops docked :wow:
 

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Son. I literally said all thru this thread that the Series X is gonna be on par with a 2070 Super and is prolly gonna be the best bang for buck bargain when it comes to gaming on the mid tier. There’s nothing that’s gonna match it. But let’s look at that price tag u just gave me. The 7800 GTX was $600 right? The PS3 was $600 right? They sold it at a significant loss because of the Blu Ray player and backwards compatibility features. They were losing so much that they had to change the architecture of the console only a year into it’s release. If we gonna tell the story. Let’s tell the whole thing. $600 GPU. Say they got it wholesale. Knock about 50% off of that. They got it down to $300 per GPU. Cool. Now let’s look at the space they had to fit the other hardware into the console. For one. They developed their own CPU. And number 2. They still ended up selling the console for less than it costed to make it. Let’s knock 50% off of a 2080ti. That shyt will STILL fill in the whole damn budget for the console. They AINT doing that especially when they got all this tech with the SSD’s n shyt like that. They would have to sell the console at atleast a 30% loss and that’s WITH getting the GPU wholesale. Of course I don’t think they get the parts for retail prices. I posted that to show u the scale of pricing they would have to account for. Not to mention the fact that AMD doesn’t have an answer for the 2080 or 2080TI on the shelves at all right now.
The ee chip that was in launch ps3s only cost $8 at the time, it was scrapped so they could use gaikai to resell games.

Also, you ended with they don't have a 2080 equivalent on shelves but we know the series x uses a card that won't be available tpu the public yet at the time of release. So what is that card, do you know?

Xbox Series X GPU may be more powerful than NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super
 
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nikka like I told the last person. Chop the price in half and it’s still more than the entire console. Also. AMD does NOT have a GPU on the market that is even on par with the 2080 or 2080 Super yet. Let alone a 2080ti. Their strongest GPU is hovering around a 2070. Series X has more power than 5700XT. But not by THAT much. It’s gonna be rivaling a 2070 Super. Which is great but like I said when the last gen consoles and the refreshes released. nikkas need to stop being unrealistic.

Once again, you’re making assumptions based on retail value without knowledge of costs or margin. When you factor in that the deal us going to result in millions of those GPUs being sold to Microsoft or Sony the costs can come way down. Especially since the GPU will be cheaper to produce every year so they can give them a cheaper price and still hit a ROI.
 

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Once again, you’re making assumptions based on retail value without knowledge of costs or margin. When you factor in that the deal us going to result in millions of those GPUs being sold to Microsoft or Sony the costs can come way down. Especially since the GPU will be cheaper to produce every year so they can give them a cheaper price and still hit a ROI.
PC gamers are human, this news is upsetting to them so it has to be confirmed better before they'll believe it's true. So this is how they are currently processing this new reality
 

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^^^^^ u dumb nikkas will NEVER learn. Lol. Do u understand? I will have all consoles at launch. And the next most powerful GPU. I will pick that up too. Lol. This ain’t about me being “jealous” or anything like that. This is about me being REALISTIC. I have told u nikkas what these consoles were gonna be capable of since 2013. U nikkas literally argue all day and refuse to listen. Y’all feed into these dreams these companies try to sell u year after year. Lol
 

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^^^^^ u dumb nikkas will NEVER learn. Lol. Do u understand? I will have all consoles at launch. And the next most powerful GPU. I will pick that up too. Lol. This ain’t about me being “jealous” or anything like that. This is about me being REALISTIC. I have told u nikkas what these consoles were gonna be capable of since 2013. U nikkas literally argue all day and refuse to listen. Y’all feed into these dreams these companies try to sell u year after year. Lol

I could give a damn if either ship with intel integrated graphics to be honest. You just said something that didn’t make sense and I responded to it. You may actually have the right answer...but your reasoning as to why you thought your answer was right was flawed.
 
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