Y'all Really Think Ukraine's Winning This War?

[Fill Collins]

fukk the Kremlin and fukk Ukrainian refugees

I'm just glad there's less coverage of cacs caccing every fukking day

 

[MoshpitMazi]

This war is the definition of fake it till you make it
U.S media going keep saying Ukraine is winning while every major city gets bombed, they keep begging for money, and NATO keeps supplying them with new weapons
With the whole western world financing and supplying weapons eventually they going win since Russia will probably exhaust their resources.
Right today tho , if having your country occupied and multiple cities reduced to rubble is winning then i guess

You a dumb nikka that don’t understand how war and military battles are fought, but it’s cool jus sit back and let the real nikkas that understand speak.


Russia is not only losing this war but destabilizing their own country in the process. Bodies being dropped do not equate to winning a war


Go ask them russian oligarchs if they winning the war

 

[Vandelay]

It was a question. I didn't know Russia outpaced the US in nukes.

I'm an objective observer so I'm not pro or against any side

War is interesting to many people. There seems to be many war enthusiast on this forum so I find the discussions enlightening.

The thing about nukes is they come in many forms; bombs, rockets, mobile launched, submarine launched, and they all require significant periodic maintenance on them. They just don't always fire because you pushed the button after it sitting for years.

Its been theorized Russia built more nukes and bigger nukes because their weapons weren't the most accurate. I'm not saying I want to call Russia's bluff, but I'd venture to say they don't have 6,200 instantly operable nukes. You only need a couple hundred to really prove your point. They're more of a deterrent than anything.

My POV has shifted in this conflict. I initially didn't think the US should support Ukraine, but as I read more of the history of their strife and the more I applied that to the history of the world War 1 and 2, there is no scenario where Russia stops at Ukraine. NATO expansion is/was a concern, but it's not like NATO was actively spending money on any semblance of a military to threaten Russia. Not to bring Trump into it, but this was Trump's major issue with NATO, the US was putting up all the money and he was getting tired of that. Part me thinks Putin's plan was Trump gets reelected, pulls out of NATO, and because NATO had their thumb up their asses for years, Ukraine, Moldova, eventually Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania get annexed and fold back into Russia.

Russia's demography necessitates that they have to expand their borders because their population is aging out drastically. Russia as we know it is not going to be Russia in 30 years. It's not going to be able to stay as this one giant country with a dwindling and aging population for much longer.

Now with this invasion multiple things have happened that only further put Russia at a disadvantage:

• Ukraine's resolve is on a bean and they'll never be able to take it with any semblance of infrastructure or population left.
• NATO is expanded again and they are actually throwing money up.
• Germany and a bunch of EU countries are moving back to coal reducing their need for Russian oil.
• Russia lost most of their trading partners from outside Russia and not only will they get back to any kind of superpower status, they'll be a failed state.
• They're conscripting anyone of an age of that will even keep the population going. This war is only going accelerate their downfall.
• Russia's military will take years if not decades to get back to where it was just January of last year.
• And potentially most consequential of all, I can see a scenario where more Russian states break away if the economy continuously collapses.

So Ukraine doesn't have to win, they just both will lose in this scenario.

 

[Mystic]

I want this nikka to either drop a nuke or not stop pump faking you bytch ass nikka

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

I want this nikka to either drop a nuke or not stop pump faking you bytch ass nikka

How big a nuke and where?

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Part me thinks Putin's plan was Trump gets reelected, pulls out of NATO, and because NATO had their thumb up their asses for years, Ukraine, Moldova, eventually Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania get annexed and fold back into Russia.

That's the only thing that makes sense. When Trump lost, Putin's dikk was still rock hard for Ukraine and he wasn't gonna be denied. Now he's fukked.

Russia's demography necessitates that they have to expand their borders because their population is aging out drastically. Russia as we know it is not going to be Russia in 30 years.

That's why they steal children.

 

[desjardins]

. Bodies being dropped do not equate to winning a war

Yup, that's why the U.S spent trillions and killed hella civilians and still lost to the Taliban
Another war they were "winning" for 20 yrs until they had to bail. Yall dummies never learn
If Russian is destabilized then wtf is the Ukraine. Gotta rebuild from scratch while owing billions to the U.S
Ain't no winners here dumb ass nikka

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

while owing billions to the U.S

Really?

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

Yup, that's why the U.S spent trillions and killed hella civilians and still lost to the Taliban
Another war they were "winning" for 20 yrs until they had to bail. Yall dummies never learn
If Russian is destabilized then wtf is the Ukraine. Gotta rebuild from scratch while owing billions to the U.S
Ain't no winners here dumb ass nikka

Putin wants to take Ukraine, keep it out of NATO then eventually do the same to it's other neighbors. Ukraine and NATO are making him fall back.

They're stopping Putin from being Hitler 2.0 and causing WW3

 

[MoshpitMazi]

ty Yup, that's why the U.S spent trillions and killed hella civilians and still lost to the Taliban
Another war they were "winning" for 20 yrs until they had to bail. Yall dummies never learn
If Russian is destabilized then wtf is the Ukraine. Gotta rebuild from scratch while owing billions to the U.S
Ain't no winners here dumb ass nikka

Independence >>>>>>>>>>>>>


If Ukraine owe a little for doing bidness and getting russia out the paint. Sure they wouldn’t mind if thats the price of “freedom”



Tell Your daddy putin to get his bread up


nikka getting Ho’d by a JV team , it’s so bad nikkas are questioning the existence of the russian federation and enemy soldiers haven’t even stepped on the land.




and we slapped the taliban up it’s not our fault the afghanis didn’t wanna build their nation.

 

[Lord_nikon]

Can't' believe the media.

One thing for sure, their country has Billions, maybe Trillions of dollars in damage to repair. So it's going to be hell their for decades to come.

Im sure the USA will foot the bill for re- building

 

[Red Shield]

Ukraine ain't winning shyt.

 

[Yzak]

I'm disappointed in the complete lack of urban battle footage. I wanted to see some live action cod shyt, but most the vids are just the aftermath of drones dropping grenades.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

Get your shyt pushed back then call for a timeout Comrades but disguse it as cease fire to observe religious holiday

Putin Calls a 36-Hour Cease-Fire, but Ukraine and U.S. Are Skeptical (Published 2023)

The cease-fire would coincide with the Eastern Orthodox Christmas on Saturday, but Kremlin adversaries and some analysts call it a ploy for military and political advantage.

www.nytimes.com

They got OP in a dark windowless basement pumping out propaganda I hope they let you out this week comrade

Yet the ceasefire didn't happen.

 

[Bolzmark]

They can have 10,000 nukes but if they ain't gonna use them what does it matter.

Ukraine is winning because they should have lost a long time ago. We are coming up on a year now. Russia is a super-power. Ukraine is a lil dude. This was not supposed to take long. Now you hearing Russia is having to borrow weapons, they are offering dudes in prison a way out if they go to the front lines, and they are gonna be broke as fukk when this is over. Don't forget those sanctions are still lingering.

Ukraine is now Russias Vietnam.