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You have this UNCANNY yet persistently annoying ability to just make words up to suit whatever you just stubbornly want to catch on.

You're describing deists.

Theres no other reason to really sit here and come up with a new semantic trick to further delineate yourself from what you are or what you are lodging on other people.

The word already exists. Theres no other synonyms needed.

Deists. They're theists without a formalized concept of "religion"

(personally I argue that all theists are religious, but based on how ridiculous you're being i don't expect you to grasp that either).

What part in the deist defintion does a person believing that a higher power exists and interacts with the world fit in?

Deist believe that the higher power doesn't interact with the universe so how can those type of people can be deist?

A simple look up of the defintion of deism:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deism

The non religious theist doesnt follow a religion but doesn't believe that the higher power is indifferent so they can't be deist.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What part in the deist defintion does a person believing that a higher power exists and interacts with the world fit in?

Deist believe that the higher power doesn't interact with the universe so how can they be deist?

Deist is anyone who believes in a higher power but its a tricky term because anyone who asserts belief in any god has SOME attributes they're ascribing to that god.

When you start laying things on, that makes it religious in itself.

It doesn't matter if it interacts with the world or not, the fact that you claim THAT it either interacts or doesn't interact is an ASSERTION, and as such is a religious claim.

My point is that, what you believe doesn't matter so much as the fact that you're actually asserting belief in a thing with specific qualities.

 

[Big Mel]

The universe isn't actually infinite (so far as we know)

Its just SO LARGE that we can fundamentally (and realistically) describe it as infinite.

But isn't it being finite sort of absurd? I just remember being a little kid and looking up and thinking "if it stops somewhere, what's after the stoppage"

I'm team science btw. Just seeing if you big brains know some stuff I can apply.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What part in the deist defintion does a person believing that a higher power exists and interacts with the world fit in?

Deist believe that the higher power doesn't interact with the universe so how can those type of people can be deist?

A simple look up of the defintion of deism:
Deism | Define Deism at Dictionary.com

The non religious theist doesnt follow a religion but doesn't believe that the higher power is indifferent so they can't be deist.

You see what you're doing here?

All this:

_____ believes this but doesn't believe ______.

Thats religious.

Its not just that they don't subscribe to "religion" in the sense that its not a well known religious concept or one thats widely followed, its that they're making assertions about what this god is, or is not.

Thats what makes it religious inevitably.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

But isn't it being finite sort of absurd? I just remember being a little kid and looking up and thinking "if it stops somewhere, what's after the stoppage"

I'm team science btw. Just seeing if you big brains know some stuff I can apply.

Go check out either Lawrence Krauss or Stephen Hawkins or Neil Degrass Tyson's work. They can fill in a lot of stuff in much better detail.

And whether or not its "absurd" doesn't really matter. Its what we can prove, not what we want to be true.

 

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Deist is anyone who believes in a higher power but its a tricky term because anyone who asserts belief in any god has SOME attributes they're ascribing to that god.

When you start laying things on, that makes it religious in itself.

It doesn't matter if it interacts with the world or not, the fact that you claim THAT it either interacts or doesn't interact is an ASSERTION, and as such is a religious claim.

My point is that, what you believe doesn't matter so much as the fact that you're actually asserting belief in a thing with specific qualities.

There is still a difference between a deist and a nonreligious theists based in the definition of deism itself.

As long as you believe that the higher power intervenes in any way you can't be a deist.

Whoa nobody said that I or anybody was making claims.

Having a belief isn't making a claim unless you try to push it as fact so being a theist with a belief while making no claims isn't religious.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

There is still a difference between a deist and a nonreligious theists based in the definition of deism itself.

No.

All deists are still religious. They're making assertions about what god is or is not.

Deists just generally get more of a pass because they're subscribing to something SO general that they can't really be defined in a workable context.

As long as you believe that the higher power intervenes in any way you can t be a deist.

It doesn't matter if it intervenes or not.

The fact that you have an OPINION on whether or not it intervenes, makes it religious.

Whoa nobody said that I or anybody was making claims.

You are.

You're claiming Deists do or do not do something.

Thats religious in relation to what they prescribe their god(s) to be.

Having a belief isn't making a claim or assertion

Yeah.

It is.

Thats the literal definition of what you're doing.

You're subscribing to an assertion.

unless you try to push it as fact so being a theist with a belief while making no claims isn't religious.

It doesn't matter.

if you believe it, you think its true/real/valid. Thats the problem

you can't "fake" believe something, you can only lie to others about whether or not you actually believe it.

 

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You see what you're doing here?

All this:

_____ believes this but doesn't believe ______.

Thats religious.

Its not just that they don't subscribe to "religion" in the sense that its not a well known religious concept or one thats widely followed, its that they're making assertions about what this god is, or is not.

Thats what makes it religious inevitably.

Who says that their belief that a higher power exists will ever turn into a religion though.

You can believe that a higher power exists and leave it at that which stops it from becoming religious.

 

[T-K-G]

this entire thread is full of 's

 

[Big Mel]

Go check out either Lawrence Krauss or Stephen Hawkins or Neil Degrass Tyson's work. They can fill in a lot of stuff in much better detail.

And whether or not its "absurd" doesn't really matter. Its what we can prove, not what we want to be true.

okay. will do. i just think maybe my innocent child logic was kind of profound.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

so can somebody point me to the song?

 

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No.

All deists are still religious. They're making assertions about what god is or is not.

Deists just generally get more of a pass because they're subscribing to something SO general that they can't really be defined in a workable context.



It doesn't matter if it intervenes or not.

The fact that you have an OPINION on whether or not it intervenes, makes it religious.



You are.

You're claiming Deists do or do not do something.

Thats religious in relation to what they prescribe their god(s) to be.



Yeah.

It is.

Thats the literal definition of what you're doing.

You're subscribing to an assertion.



It doesn't matter.

if you believe it, you think its true/real/valid. Thats the problem

you can't "fake" believe something, you can only lie to others about whether or not you actually believe it.

Well lets say that your right and its an assertion but it still stops short from it being a claim.

Simple having a belief doesn't mean that your making a claim or asserting anything as fact therefore it prevent it from being religious if it just stops there.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Who says that their belief that a higher power exists will ever turn into a religion though.

It doesn't have to turn into a land owning tax free organization that has sunday school to be a religion.

You could call the communist worship of Lenin or Kim Jong Il religious as well.

The fact is that they're making assertions about what their god is or is not.

Thats religion.

Just because it doesn't fit into a form thats popularized doesn't mean its any less religious.

It merely has fewer tenets, but its still a religious assertion.

They just call themselves deists because they think the major religions are bullshyt, but they still want to believe that SOMETHING is out there, yet they're describing their own personal gods they want to exist in the process.

You can believe that a higher power exists and leave it at that which stops it from becoming religious.

Doesn't matter.

Its still religious.

If you say "theres a god" thats a qualification on that god.

Because you'll just say: God created everything, but I don't know anything beyond that.

OK. Well thats still religious. You CLAIM god created everything.

Proclaiming that god even exists IS a religious claim.

You must understand this.

You're not any different because you follow fewer rituals or try to distance yourself from other organized and more popular religious entities.

 

[newworldafro]

Is it Oochie Walley or One Mic....is it "Peace God" or "Never read the Quran or Islamic Scripture"?

fantastic posting.......

I'm sure he'll make it sound tight ..................... but i'm not buying this change of mentality ....

 

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It doesn't have to turn into a land owning tax free organization that has sunday school to be a religion.

You could call the communist worship of Lenin or Kim Jong Il religious as well.

The fact is that they're making assertions about what their god is or is not.

Thats religion.

Just because it doesn't fit into a form thats popularized doesn't mean its any less religious.

It merely has fewer tenets, but its still a religious assertion.

They just call themselves deists because they think the major religions are bullshyt, but they still want to believe that SOMETHING is out there, yet they're describing their own personal gods they want to exist in the process.

Doesn't matter.

Its still religious.

If you say "theres a god" thats a qualification on that god.

Because you'll just say: God created everything, but I don't know anything beyond that.

OK. Well thats still religious. You CLAIM god created everything.

Proclaiming that god even exists IS a religious claim.

You must understand this.

You're not any different because you follow fewer rituals or try to distance yourself from other organized and more popular religious entities.

Its nothing more than a religious trait at most to believe a higher power exists because in the end they are not making a claim.

A claim is an assertion of truth and simply having a belief isn't an assertion of truth.
Its still not a religion so its a stretch to call it religious.