YO!!NFL should punish Daniel Snyder like NBA did Sterling

[Domingo Halliburton]

I don't think the two issues are on the same level but they are related.

why?

 

[mrken12]

There weren't enough of us killed for white people to change history that much.

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They changed our history a whole lot too so there are no limits to their manipulation.

And here is a movie theater in a Native American community in Oklahoma called Redskin Theater

Redskin Theatre - Movie Times

So why would they name a movie theater after what is supposedly a "negative" term?

Or give their high school team the same name?

 

[brick james]

They changed our history a whole lot too so there are no limits to their manipulation.

This shyt right here is like italians claiming they had a rough road in America. Black history, culture, and population has remained far more intact than native america history and culture. I think that the genocide of the native americans explains many of their problems in society today including being stupid enough to call themselves the redskins, and that the effect is way stronger today than slavery.

Native americans have way highers rates of alcoholism, health problems, and poverty than african americans, and that is because they got fukked way harder than we did.

 

[Hammer]

LMAO stupid fukking thread

nfl didn't even punish riley cooper

 

[mrken12]

This shyt right here is like italians claiming they had a rough road in America. Black history, culture, and population has remained far more intact than native america history and culture. I think that the genocide of the native americans explains many of their problems in society today including being stupid enough to call themselves the redskins, and that the effect is way stronger today than slavery.

The Native Americans have way more pride in their heritage, culture, and community than we do. So they would be the last people to attach supposedly "negative" terms to their school teams and theaters.

And our history has stayed intact? If you ask the average black person about the Moors or Mansa Musa, most of them would be clueless. A lot of our history has been hidden or manipulated.

 

[TKOK]

If Goodell wanted the name changed he would be putting a whole lot of pressure on snyder to change. AFAIK he ain't done nothing.

 

[brick james]

The Native Americans have way more pride in their heritage, culture, and community than we do. So they would be the last people to attach supposedly "negative" terms to their school teams and theaters.

What data are you drawing from? They may know more about their history because it's more highly documented, but their society does not reflect any type of pride in it. I'm mainly referring to the extremely high and persistent rates of poverty, and alcoholism which are much higher than in the african-american community. The high rates of poverty, alcoholism, low education, and drug addiction in the African-American community can be tied to policies by whites, and the higher rates in the native american community can be tied to policies implemented by whites.

Are you trying to say that the plight of the African-American is even comparable to the plight of the native american? Breh, white people slaughtered them, took their lands, and they have it worse than any other group in america

now call em lazy or stupid like the cacs say about us to deflect attention away from a dark history

 

[JMurder]

How much should black people care about it? It's a native american issue so native americans should be at the forefront about it.

They are...the problem is there aren't many of them. Black people should care about it as much as if it affects black people. MLK understood this point...

"An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"

 

[JMurder]

What data are you drawing from? They may know more about their history because it's more highly documented, but their society does not reflect any type of pride in it. I'm mainly referring to the extremely high and persistent rates of poverty, and alcoholism which are much higher than in the african-american community. The high rates of poverty, alcoholism, low education, and drug addiction in the African-American community can be tied to policies by whites, and the higher rates in the native american community can be tied to policies implemented by whites.

Are you trying to say that the plight of the African-American is even comparable to the plight of the native american? Breh, white people slaughtered them, took their lands, and they have it worse than any other group in america

now call em lazy or stupid like the cacs say about us to deflect attention away from a dark history

sounds like you're saying black people have no pride in our history either

your main point is valid tho

 

[Cabbage Patch]

Didn't the native americans just a couple of years ago kicked out any members of their tribe that had black heritage? I don't see why black people should go to bat for native americans. so hard.

Depending on the tribe, certain tribes were kicking out other amerindians, as well as those who were black as well as amerindian or white as well as amerindian. In every case, it was all about casino distributions. It's a mess.

Redskins is still an offensive name and needs to have been changed years ago. And for being in an alleged worse situation than blacks, they do have their own sovereign lands, sovereign government, sovereign court system, schools and hospitals. Amerindians are in a way better position than blacks, who are homeless as a united people.

Change the name, and be done with it. It's not that important to keep.

 

[itsyoung!!]

So why is only one tribe making a big deal about the name if it's such a major issue?

You cant be serious thinkin only 1 tribe hate this bull shyt

 

[itsyoung!!]

Always thought @mrken12 was a decent poster but after readin this thread - from a native american

 

[Cabbage Patch]

Are you trying to say that the plight of the African-American is even comparable to the plight of the native american? Breh, white people slaughtered them, took their lands, and they have it worse than any other group in america

Have you actually been on the rez?

When's the last time every nikka on your block got a nice check just for being a nikka? And I mean every man, woman, child, newborn. Ain't no nikkas seeing that, except nikkas in Alaska getting that oil distribution money every year for being a resident of Alaska. Indians have poverty, but so do nikkas. Many indians don't have their original lands, which sucks, but they still have land. Nikkas have no land. I'd rather be broke, but own a couple acres, than broke with no acres.

There are times when Indians can tell the feds to kick rocks, because they are sovereign. Nikkas can't do that.

When the feds screw up... well, read this: Cobell settlement notifications begin; hundred of thousands expected to benefit | Reznet News

Hundreds of thousands of notices have been sent out to American Indians this week that could be affected by the $3.4 billion class action settlement Cobell v. Salazar, in which a Montana banker sued the federal government over misspent money accounts.

As ordered by the court, and later approved by the legislative and executive branches, a third party firm has launched an effort to notify the potentially hundreds of thousands of American Indians that might have been affected by the mismanaged accounts.

This outreach campaign and upcoming media blitz is alerting people that they could receive payments in the billion dollar settlement. Most will receive about $1,800 but some could receive more, according to the Department of Interior....

Cobell claimed in her suit that the federal government failed to provide a historical account for Individual Indian Money accounts, money the feds held in trust for Native American landowners in exchange for leasing tribal land. The government either mismanaged the deposits in those accounts or failed altogether to deposit money – royalties for oil, gas, grazing and other leases – owed to tribal members, Cobell said.

The settlement also includes $1.9 billion for the Department of Interior to purchase checkerboard land and return it to tribes as well as up to $60 million for scholarships.

In conclusion, I'd rather be Indian broke than hood rich.

 

[True Weltch Media]

No it isn't. There are some other Native American high schools with the same team name.
So are you trying to tell me that they named themselves after a racial slur?

And as for the "controversy" about the name, only one tribe has made a big deal about it. All of the other tribes don't really care about this.

These schools and teams were named by cacs back when it was acceptable for them to toss racial terms around like its nothing. Redskins is what the white man used to call native Americans there is no justification for the continued use of the term. Times have changed and so should their names. Other tribes do care about this strongly. They just don't have the voice that the tribe fighting this issue . go Find any Native American and ask them in person about the names or mascots of some of these teams and they will tell you it's offensive to them.

 

[True Weltch Media]

Didn't the native americans just a couple of years ago kicked out any members of their tribe that had black heritage? I don't see why black people should go to bat for native americans. so hard.

They only kicked out those who couldn't prove their ancestry. Again you can blame the white man. Who's list called The Dawes Rolls inaccurately classified native Americans mixed with black as black and classifying native Americans mixd with white as natives.